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Star Wars Rebels Season Four (spoilers)

Hmm... I'd guess maybe we're going to see how Saw Gerrera got his injuries, since he still looks intact in the clips. We're definitely getting some Rogue One references/setup.
 
Wow. That trailer was really something.

Am I the only one who got chills when a certain original trilogy ship type showed up? Big moment, a long time coming.

Still not sure I believe they can end this series in a way that is both satisfying to the audience, but which also doesn't step on the toes of the original trilogy. That whole Luke being the last Jedi thing and all. But I'm definitely interested in seeing what they do to cap off this series. I didn't want to give it a chance, largely because Ezra was such an annoying character early on. But it has really evolved into an excellent addition to the universe. Going to be sad to see this cast go.
 
largely because Ezra was such an annoying character early on. But it has really evolved into an excellent addition to the universe.
They seem to be good at that. I recall being very turned off by another young animated Star Wars character that turned out to be awesome. :)
 
That was a great trailer. It will be interesting to see how they end things.
Glad we'll finally be getting to see the X-Wings.
It's nice to see them working in some more Rogue One references.
 
Taking away my feelings about Rebels, which are mixed on a good day, I am honestly curious: Does anyone think there is a chance of Ezra and Kanan dying? I mean, that would make Luke the last of the jedi and explain why they never meet him. I can actually see how they could keep those two characters alive without messing up the continuity of the movies, and I'm not saying anything about wanting any character to die, but I do wonder if they'll go for a more dramatic, depressing ending.

I mean, they probably won't because of the show's target target audience, but kids movies and shows have had dark moments and even deaths before, so I can almost see them ending the show with a heroic sacrifice from at least one of the jedi characters. The only characters we know survive even to Rogue One are Hera and Chopper, so really anyone could die, I just wonder if the show would be open to it. It would show real stakes for what the characters have been doing. Then again, people seem mixed on main characters dying in SW productions nowadays, so they may not want to irritaite anyone.

Sure they'll kill off side characters like their life depended on it, even really good ones (no, I will never not be bitter over what they did to
Ahsoka
), but I am interested to see if any of the main characters of Rebels make the ultimate sacrifice. I'm not saying that as someone who admittedly hates about half of Rebels cast but as someone who is genuinely curious as to how everything will turn out, regardless of my feelings toward the show.
 
I'll be very surprised if Kanan or Ezra get killed. I sort of expect some sort of metaphysical-ish fate in which they "ascend" for lack of a better term to some other level of the Force which effectively cuts them off from the realm of the "living" (again, lack of a better term). Indeed, I imagine something similar is at play with Ahsoka, and this could be what the deal is with the wolves and owls and perhaps even connected in some manner to Bendu. This is done largely to make Luke truly the last Jedi and we won't have a the main characters of a kids show getting killed off. Indeed, to the other characters who are not believers in the mysticism that surrounds the Force, they might consider Ezra and Kanan to be dead even though they do live on in some manner.
 
Yeah, there's a pretty good chance we can expect them to be taken off the playing field at the end, but I find it doubtful they'll kill them.
 
There's a couple options on the table. Doing what Luke is doing in the ST and just walking away from it all is certainly one of them. Looking out for and safeguarding the next generation of force sensitive children is another (and already hinted at.) These two options aren't even mutually exclusive.

That said, I wouldn't rule out death as a possibility. These are after all the same people that killed off Steela, Satine, Fives, Maul, all four Inquisitors, Pre Vizsla, Savage Opress and would have killed Ventress too if the show hadn't been cancelled. Granted, a lot of those are villains, but many of them were still long running characters.
 
I've said it before, I'll probably say it again: while I don't actually expect it to happen, to my mind Kanan has to die. I'm less convinced that Ezra has to go as well. I'd actually buy him giving it all up and going away for some reason. But Kanan is too tied to Hera, and Hera to the Rebellion. (And while Hera's death could totally explain why he'd bail, we know Hera lives to become General Syndulla by Scarif.) And if he isn't dead, then they are going to have a crazy difficult time explaining how he never got in the same room with the most famous Rebel in the galaxy after Yavin.

I really think Kanan has to die for me to be satisfied with the ending. Something suitably meaningful and heroic, of course. Something that tugs at the heartstrings, and leaves an impact on everybody, especially Hera and Ezra. But I just don't see how you can leave him alive, and somehow explain how he never meets Luke without completely throwing out four years of characterization to do it. No question, the people behind this show are better writers than I could ever hope to be, so maybe they'll pull some rabbit out of their hat that changes my mind.
 
As for Kanan, even though he never officially graduated from Padawan to full Jedi Knight, he was still extensively trained by several Jedi Masters, which puts him well ahead of Luke, who was only briefly trained by two Masters. So, yeah, if Luke qualifies as a Jedi, then so does Kanan. So unless something happens that causes him to walk away from that identity, like Ahsoka did -- or like Anakin did -- it seems he'd have to die, or perhaps be transformed in some fundamental way (e.g. ascend alongside the Bendu or something?).

As for Ezra, I was going to say he's never been trained by a full Jedi, but he has had a bit of instruction from Yoda, although not in person. That may not be enough to strictly qualify as a Jedi, but I suppose that's splitting hairs. When the whole order is destroyed, it doesn't matter if someone technically qualifies under the old rules; if that were the case, Luke wouldn't really qualify as a Jedi either. What matters is that they keep the teachings and traditions alive, even if they were only informally trained in them. So "excluded on a technicality" or "just walked away" probably wouldn't cut it. That pretty much leaves either dying, falling to the Dark Side, or undergoing some existential transformation.
 
There's a couple options on the table. Doing what Luke is doing in the ST and just walking away from it all is certainly one of them. Looking out for and safeguarding the next generation of force sensitive children is another (and already hinted at.)
Yep. Ezra going into hiding with a group of force-sensitive children is definitely an option.

It wouldn't even have to contradict Obi-Wan's and Yoda's conversation in TESB, about Luke not being their last hope because there is another. I believe there are actually two ways that could work (at least).

One, the other hope is Leia, as people have generally always naturally assumed, and it's already been decided that neither Ezra nor any other force-sensitive in his group (whether Kanan, Ahsoka, or whoever) can afford to interfere.

Two, the other hope isn't Leia at all, but rather Ezra. I know, I know, I can hear the hoots and hollers already. :lol:
 
Yep. Ezra going into hiding with a group of force-sensitive children is definitely an option.

It wouldn't even have to contradict Obi-Wan's and Yoda's conversation in TESB, about Luke not being their last hope because there is another. I believe there are actually two ways that could work (at least).

One, the other hope is Leia, as people have generally always naturally assumed, and it's already been decided that neither Ezra nor any other force-sensitive in his group (whether Kanan, Ahsoka, or whoever) can afford to interfere.

Two, the other hope isn't Leia at all, but rather Ezra. I know, I know, I can hear the hoots and hollers already. :lol:

To my way of thinking Yoda's line isn't a problem since only Luke and/or Leia can reach Vader. The likes of Ezra, Kanan, Ahsoka and maybe Barris still being around doesn't factor into it because it was never a case of "we need someone with the force and lightsaber skills to murder the Sith to death" it was always about the twins, specifically.

Where people get confused I think is that they assume both Yoda and Obi-Wan are on the same page on this. They are not. So when they say "That boy is our last hope", "No, there is another" the other really is Leia.
The reason Obi-Wan didn't count her is because he's still convinced Anakin is gone and the only remaining recourse is confrontation and Leia is nowhere near ready, nor can she be in time. You see, Obi-Wan believes that Anakin was never the Chosen One after all, but Luke is (he even says to Maul as much) and as such he'll be the one to destroy the Sith and bring balance. He was wrong (again!)

Yoda believes Anakin is still in there and that either Luke or Leia can reach what's left of him. Moreover that the true path of the Jedi is selfless passivity, not more violence. And that's exactly what happens. Luke resists temptation, throws down his blade, refuses to play the Sith's game and is willing to die then and there. That brings Anakin back and causes the Sith Order to implode damn near instantly.

So yeah, Ezra being alive or dead doesn't impact this one way or another. At most, he's plan-C. As in pull a First Order and found a new order of Jedi off in the Unknown Regions in the hopes that their decedents can succeed where they failed. Always in motion is the future. ;)
 
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EW has a new post trailer interview with Dave Filoni about the new season.
A few interesting reveals:
Even though he was name dropped in the trailer, we will not see Krennic.
Thrawn will be the main bad guy again.
Filoni wouldn't say too much about the wolves, but he talk about how some people see real world wolves, which could tie into Rebels.
Dave Filoni said:
Some people see them as a guide, and some see them as a predator and destroyer. I find that to be true of the Force.”
The new undercover paint job Chopper gets was inspired by Filoni's Pittsburgh Penguins fandom.
 
Yeah, that got me too. I think somebody got their franchises mixed up.
 
Vaguely related: for some reason the Random House Star Wars Audiobooks use the Star Trek 'Red Alert' sound effect instead of the actual Star Wars one and it drives me nuts every time! ;)
 
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