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Star Wars Episode 3: Was there as epic as this?

Yes, because tracking the heroes, standing up to Vader, and luring the Jedi Knight into a trap for Vader, being unflappable in the face of a thermal detonator, engaging the Jedi in combat and then getting killed by King of Cool Han Solo through mishap are totally comparable to swinging your lightsaber to deflect a droid-fired blaster bolt and then committing suicide by doddering old man and poor editing.

Kit Fisto =/= Boba Fett. You can't deliberately create a cult favorite character by holding a shot on him and having him mug for the camera. That's like giving yourself a nickname. Ironically, this also applies to Boba Fett himself. See the Special Edition of ANH where he inexplicably appears just to mug for the camera. That shot made him less cool, George. In fact, every single time the camera swings over to him for more gratuitous mugging throughout the Special Editions, he gets less and less cool.

As for the main thrust of the thread, is this a delayed April Fools, or what? That scene between the Jedi Deathsquad and Palpatine was beyond embarrassing. It was like they choreographed this awesome, blazing fast sword fight between Palps and 4 Jedi sabermasters in their heads, and then started filming and realized Ian McDiarmid is fucking old as fuck and he and the Jedi actors had zero weapons ability. They literally have to use editing tricks to kill the 3 redshirt masters, but even that fails as the timing is completely off, making it look like each one just stood there and did nothing while Palps whacked them with his light whiffle bat. The fight between Obi-Wan and Vader in ANH was more believable.

All three prequels had better fights than this. I'm frankly baffled as to how this 15 second clip stands out as "epic". Not to mention, giving a character like Yoda or Emperor "I Mock Luke's Lame Jedi Weapon" Palpatine a lightsaber and having them hop around like Mexican jumping beans completely misses the point of both characters being the most powerful Force users around.

Usually, when it gets down to your wizard whipping out his dagger, or laying about with his quarterstaff, you know the party is fucked. Unless your all-powerful master of magic wizard is also a sooper-kewl unbeatable swordmaster, in which case the class is clearly broken and oops! there goes any tension or excitement when they encounter "threats".
 
This...

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lChJz2DSpsE[/yt]

...is epic.

The example in the OP...not so much.
 
It could have been epic if they'd got someone in that could choreograph a five-person sword fight but instead we have Palpatine taking the first Jedi down like he's lining up a shot at snooker.
 
That scene is kinda embarrassing tbh. Its funny how Kit Fisto had become a sort of cult character in the fandom, a badass if you will. Yet I think I could fight better than he did in the end; all they do is just stand there and get cut down.

Well, Palpatine's ability in the Force was so strong that he was able to 'throw off' Kit Fisto. Most people new to Star Wars don't get that.
 
One thing I've noticed is that the mask for Fisto in Sith is very different from his AOTC look. Also interesting is that he's based on AOTC concept work for the Sith lord, if they decided to do an alien Sith again. (They also considered a woman-who became Asajj Ventress-and a cyborg look before settling on Dooku)

And don't both looks resemble the Squid from Men In Black to anyone else? :)
 
George Lucas was certainly going for "epic" - that was the aim of this picture, no doubts there. But "epic" isn't what we got, I'm afraid. The sword fights/hand to hand fights in this movie were suprisingly bad. And even with the kindly assistance of CGI, Palpatine never did seem quick enough to be able to dispatch the Jedi arresting him so quickly and efficiently. I was aghast, to be Frank & Ernest.

The Yoda/Emporer fight sucked hard. The only part I liked was when Palpatine starting throwing the Senate at him. I found that to be truly inspired. Let it not be said that I don't give credit where credit's due.

When Annie and Obi-Wan fight on the Lava Planet, there are quite a few times where I just can't believe how goofy it looks. One was an obvious concern that in "distant" shots, "we" wouldn't be able to see their laser swords. Like when they're climbing and fighting on the tower that's floating in a lava stream. The sabre effects for both of them were swollen and enlarged to the degree that it looked cartoonish. The little robots jumping in and out of the lava the whole time looked even more cartoony. In general, the fighting itself was boring. On and on it went. Sometimes, it even seemed to be sped up in an artificial way that was very apparent ...
 
This...

[Lawrence of Arabia video clip]

...is epic.

The example in the OP...not so much.

Came in here to say exactly the same thing, but without visual illustrations.

Epic is something with a literal cast of thousands. Thousands of CGI characters in a scene doesn't have the same impact.
 
I think the scene was supposed to show the jedi were still overconfident, which is why the first two were taken out very swiftly. Unfortunately, the execution instead comes off making them look like noobs.

I would have had one less Jedi with Windu allowing one to be taken out as above, then a longer two-on-one, where they both overpower Palpatine just as Anakin arrives. Much of the dialogue can remain unchanged, but then Anakin's turn to the dark side comes with him cutting down Fisto, before a fight defending Sidious against Windu.
 
I think the scene was supposed to show the jedi were still overconfident, which is why the first two were taken out very swiftly. Unfortunately, the execution instead comes off making them look like noobs.

I would have had one less Jedi with Windu allowing one to be taken out as above, then a longer two-on-one, where they both overpower Palpatine just as Anakin arrives. Much of the dialogue can remain unchanged, but then Anakin's turn to the dark side comes with him cutting down Fisto, before a fight defending Sidious against Windu.

I think Anakin was put in appropriately... from Anakin's point of view, a key leader of the Jedi is committing a very un-Jedi like act (about to kill an unarmed old man). This strongly makes the case against the Jedi and for the emperor.

I think a 30 second elevator scene where a Jedi comments how crazy it seems to need 3 Jedi to go against an old man.

Much of the Emperor's power has been to cloak his presence, especially in the presence of the Jedi. They should have somehow showed him "drop" that cloak, which shocks the Jedi in some way (like the doubter suddenly gets his eyes opened), which distracts them enough for one to immediately get hit. Another one gets Force-thrown across the room, so they are incapacitated for a minute. The third Jedi gets killed, and then the recovering one on the floor is still dizzy and gets killed too. And then our scene.

I just saw this article speculating that the Emperor actually held back in the fight, and why

Also,
The beginning of RotS is epic, in my opinion.
 
Morpheus 02 said:
from Anakin's point of view, a key leader of the Jedi is committing a very un-Jedi like act (about to kill an unarmed old man).

At least we know Anakin would never do such a thing.

Sometimes, it even seemed to be sped up in an artificial way that was very apparent

They weren't sped up, but maybe they should have been. Force Speed is a Jedi ability after all...
 
I wish they would have gone the Three Musketeer route with the Star Wars prequels. Anakin Skywalker is a 20-something-year old who discovered his talent with the Force, and who desperately wants to join the Jedi. Meanwhile, the galaxy is in turmoil, an intrigue against the Jedi order is started by a Cardinal Richelieu type Palpatine. Two or three Jedi (let's say Yoda, Obi Wan and Qui Gonn) are on their own in the galaxy, when they stumble upon Anakin. I love the idea that we had a cast of 3 or 4 Jedi throughout the whole trilogy.

I first thought about how cool a Star Wars Prequel trilogy would have been in this style:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9358osUVSe8


And I recently watched the 1993 Disney Musketeers, which has a scene similar to the one in Episode II on Geonosis, when all the Jedi appear. But I found the scene in Musketeers, taken for itself, A LOT more epic. Just try to imagine that in a more sci-fi-y arena, with Jedi robes and lightsabers. But with the same music. Gotta love Michael Kamen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZblXYzkB0
 
@ morpheus 02 Sidious was definately holding back with Windu, as evidenced by his "miraculous" recovery after Anakin chopped off Windu's arm. The whole idea was to cultivate the seeds of doubt he'd spent a decade building with Anakin, subtley turning him.

But he still had to be prepared just in case Anakin either followed Windu's orders and butted out, or after he arrived just said "Yeah, okay Windu, yer right, kill him!"
 
Honestly, I think every action sequence in all three prequels was more epic that the Sidious vs Mace & Co.
 
@ morpheus 02 Sidious was definately holding back with Windu, as evidenced by his "miraculous" recovery after Anakin chopped off Windu's arm.

That only shows he wasn't unable to cast lightning, not that he held back during the saber combat.
 
I wish they would have gone the Three Musketeer route with the Star Wars prequels. Anakin Skywalker is a 20-something-year old who discovered his talent with the Force, and who desperately wants to join the Jedi. Meanwhile, the galaxy is in turmoil, an intrigue against the Jedi order is started by a Cardinal Richelieu type Palpatine. Two or three Jedi (let's say Yoda, Obi Wan and Qui Gonn) are on their own in the galaxy, when they stumble upon Anakin. I love the idea that we had a cast of 3 or 4 Jedi throughout the whole trilogy.
I like the idea of the 3 Musketeers...but not as "the last 3". The idea of an arrogant Jedi Order that has become blind to the Sith threat is very solid, and explains how the Jedi fell.

However, the "Musketeers" in terms of Obi Wan Yoda, and then picking up Anakin would have been fun. Yoda seemed way too serious in the prequels, and little of the playfulness we see in EMpire.

They could have had him tag along, and "prove" himself...but then Anakin asks "why can't I be a Jedi"...that is where the divide between Yoda & Obi Wan comes in, and we see how arrogant Obi Wan is (and is regretful for later)

I first thought about how cool a Star Wars Prequel trilogy would have been in this style:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9358osUVSe8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZblXYzkB0

The Batman Begins version was pretty cool...
 
@ morpheus 02 Sidious was definately holding back with Windu, as evidenced by his "miraculous" recovery after Anakin chopped off Windu's arm.

That only shows he wasn't unable to cast lightning, not that he held back during the saber combat.

I dunno, I got the overall impression that he had taken out three Jedi in about a minute, (no mean feat considering the previous Sith/Jedi fights we've seen as in Maul vs Obi-Wan and Kenobi, and Tyranus vs Anakin, Obi-Wan, then Yoda), and was holding back against Windu as he needed him alive and in control so he couold play the "poor victim" for Anakin's arrival.

The only miscalculation he made was I do not believe Palpatine realised the physical damage he would suffer using the force lighting to the effect he had to against Windu.
 
The only miscalculation he made was I do not believe Palpatine realised the physical damage he would suffer using the force lighting to the effect he had to against Windu.

He expected to be damaged somehow, that way he could prove to the Senate that the Jedi tried to assassinate him and failed.
 
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