Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x10 - "New Life and New Civilizations"

[Kamen Rider Blade]

While I don't doubt the US (or any) government might have a contingency plan for an actual zombie apocalypse, I doubt very much that information about it, or any of their contingency plans are available for civilians to Google.

Here's the link for the CDC plan for the Zombie OutBreak.

The CONPLAN 8888 was declassified and is publically available via FOIA.

It was also a training exercise in plan writing since nobody takes the "Zombie Apocalypse" as a realistic scenario.

It's just something for Plan Writters to work on as a Academic Exercise.

 

[Pauln6]

So, question: did Batel turn into a Gary Mitchell god-like figure? I figured that was the reason for the focus on the eyes. Anyway, it was an entertaining episode. Pike got the Inner Light treatment to give him the life he'll be denied -- much more satisfying here than in TNG. They're only now embarking on a 5 year mission?

I wondered that too. There have been several comics and novels that have suggested that the transformation was akin to blended hybridisation between psi-sensitives and psychic entities within the barrier, which is not a far cry from the kind of possession we see here. So maybe the flower allowed Batel to hybridise with more than just human, gorn, and Illyrian. Maybe there are other psychic entities that view the Vesda as enemies. That might explain how she jumped to conclusions about her abilities.

 

[oktay]

I watched the episode, it was good.

 

[Tuskin38]

Jörg Hillebrand (@gaghyogi49.bsky.social)

Here's a comparison of Captain Pike's house in the #StarTrekSNW pilot episode "Strange New Worlds"⬆️ and in the season 3 finale "New Life and New Civilizations"⬇️. The filming location must have been modified in the years between the two episodes.

bsky.app

 

[Discovery McDiscoveryFace]

After a partial rewatch I am also seeing a parallel of Batel > Human transformed into something > Now standing guard to prevent the emergence of a threat, with Agnes Jurati > Human becomes Borg Queen > Hanging out by wormhole to stop the emergence of a threat.

 

[The Salt Umpire]

I always wait to watch it with my Trekkie wife when she and I are both home, so after this evening's viewing and then reading a few reactions as follows

The fact the Koala is canon always gives me no end of joy.

I've not seen every episode of the STU, but a space Koala? Enlighten me, please!

The best part is I'd bet dollars to donuts that Pelia was just a Whovian back in the day and thought it would be funny to fuck with everyone.

Tom Baker was my first Doctor

So, I guess Pike retained the memory of that alternate future like Picard with the flute?

No! Not Flutey! /snark

Who's Flutey? Search HR Puffinstuff

How dare you. If this was a Stargate episode it would have been written better.

True dat

The Metrons may have to reset Spock's perception of mind melds.

SNW has certainly done that to us

Similar feelings here.

Because Doctor Who needs to stay far away from Trek, IMHO. No good will come from it.

Pelia has a sonic screwdriver, I know it. Hemmer was more believable as Chief Engineer.

This has all made me realise SNW is pretty light on space battles altogether compared to the other shows.

And that is good, I want shows about humanism and odd undiscovered planets, not the Battle of Jutland

Each time I heard that ominous knock at the door, I expected the Talosians to appear and say "Trick or Treat!"

It took me until the knock after Pike returns unharmed when he looked subtly different, then I twigged it was an alternate future life review and watched

(imagines Talosians with jack-O-lantern buckets and pillowcases. "We need you to help us re - ohh, is that a Mars bar?")

No. The Fire Caves held them, but it was not widely known. His sacrifice was not in vain.

Remember, Starfleet doesn't take sacred texts and prophecies that seriously. And frankly, why should they? It's all couched in metaphors.

The Tamarians have joined the chat

Allen Ginsberg's date looks like Velma and Daphne had a Twovix incident

We're hip to the Trek lingo scene, Daddy-O.

Does the 'We Reach' triangle

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Thoughts? It felt like a rushed production in case this was a series finale. I enjoyed Chris & Marie's Inner Light but cared little for the MCUesque parts with zero suspense (what? are they gonna lose and Teh Evil gets out and infests the universe? Goodbye TOS)and the ending left me wishing.

Wishing for what, you ask?

I wish heartily that SNW had been about the pre-Kirk era entirely. No callbacks, no rememberberries, no recycling ideas that were already recycled, and no introducing TOS crew. I'm tired of seeing YoungKirk already.

Spock was the only common thread between Pike & Kirk. There would be no problems with continuity for anyone but Spock and what we learned about Pike from The Cage & Discovery. Not that I'm a Canonista anymore, but the choice was either WB&C on the blogs or enjoy the show, but untethering the writer from having to write about an established role or Canon events frees them to be more creative IMO. I enjoy the roles of Hemmer and La'An. Why couldn't this have been the first voyages of NCC-1701 when the paint hadn't been pockmarked with space dust yet? What? That thing is still moving at a hall of a clip when the shields go down. If the deflector dish's also affected, then the hull will start getting etched pretty soon.

I'm looking forward to Season 4, but I'm nervous it could be a trainwreck.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I've not seen every episode of the STU, but a space Koala? Enlighten me, please!

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[cooleddie74]

And that's canon, yo. CAN-ON.

 

[The Salt Umpire]

And that's canon, yo. CAN-ON.

CAN-ON CAN-OFF?
Hey, I just realized I made CoolEddie Mr Miyagi

 

[cooleddie74]

The CLAPPER!!

 

[The Salt Umpire]

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Oh, that's funny. I imagine transforming does hurt since your...physical attributes are being destroyed. Eww, imagine feeling your eyes and brain vaporize.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

The CLAPPER!!

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[Mudd]

I'm a bit slow...it was the second or third knock before I realized that Batel wouldn't let Pike answer the door.

 

[Michael]

I'm a bit slow...it was the second or third knock before I realized that Batel wouldn't let Pike answer the door.

Oh wow, I’ll have to keep an eye on that during my rewatch, because I totally missed that. Neat touch.

 

[Mudd]

Oh wow, I’ll have to keep an eye on that during my rewatch, because I totally missed that. Neat touch.

I'm pretty sure it's so. I'll have to rewatch. But my first, and l think mistaken, impression was that the knocks simply indicated a time-change.

 

[Quantum21]

I gave it an 8 for lack of depth. The producers wanted to explore more evil and horror this season and did so with mixed results. This is a very surface treatment of the subject. I was hoping there was more to it.

My rating would've been lower if not for the Batel-Pike resolution which I think was extraordinarily good. It was extremely heartfelt and touching. I didn't sob, but I might have sniffled once.

 

[Noname Given]

Some good and relatable Background music to play during the Pike & Batel "Life Together" sequence in the episode:

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[The Salt Umpire]

Some good and relatable Background music to play during the Pike & Batel "Life Together" sequence in the episode:

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[Nerys Myk]

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[Rahul]

I just watched it for the first time:

I've always hated the season long arcs of DIS & PIC with universe-ending stakes: Control, the Mirror universe death star, the sky-tentacle-robots, the Borg magic spells.
And every time I said - I probably wouldn't have hated it if it were just a single episode, instead of a season long arc.

Well.
This was it.
The stupid, unscientific world ending plot, straight out of a blender where someone accidentally mixed Dr Who, Harry Potter and B-movie horror. Had all the character developments at once. Lots of crying, voice-overs over slow-motion. Lots of coincidences, characters suddenly knowing what they have to do. Wild risks, stupid actions, last minute stopping of a demon-takeover.

And I didn't hate it.

I mean I don't love it.
It combined all the worst traits of SNW - the unconvincing Kirk, the overdramatic sappyness, the bad science, just trying to do way too many things at once.

But it was fast-paced, had some good moments in there, looked fantastic, and was overall just a silly, entertaining hour of television.
Like, I wish it was a better. But you know? "78 episodes. Maybe 30 good ones"?
Not everything can be "the inner light". Sometimes you just got a "masks", and can still enjoy it for the television it is.