I prefer it in "the original Rex Harrison."
Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x09 - "Terrarium"
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The difference between a lady and a yeoman is not in how she behaves, but in the coffee and documents she delivers to her commanding officer.
The ceaseless mist and fog dishonor the House of Mog?How do you say "The rain in Spain falls mainly on the plains" in Klingon?
Very enjoyable, and Season 2 was more of a downward turn. But, Pike was great so I find some enjoyment even if Leland is a pain in the ass and not a good villain.
It doesn't. If they constructed a real replica of the 60s Enterprise and it was in orbit, worked and had that bridge you wouldn't be excited and would complain the bridge looked primitive?
Oshkosh b'gosh.How do you say "The rain in Spain falls mainly on the plains" in Klingon?
Heh ... Many of the things that are appealing about the TOS bridge, were once considered by the US Navy for adapting to the ships.
But just like the SNW bridge, even our Navy has updated and moved way beyond that particular '60's look.
Even the NX-01 bridge from the early 2000's is a Hell of a lot closer to how ships bridges look nowadays.
But just like the SNW bridge, even our Navy has updated and moved way beyond that particular '60's look.
Even the NX-01 bridge from the early 2000's is a Hell of a lot closer to how ships bridges look nowadays.
I'm kinda torn on this episode. I've waited for an Ortegas episode for a long time, so this was a welcome story. I'll just say what I liked/did not like, etc.
- I did like her narration. Aside from Navia being a fairly interesting narrator, I think the character itself fits well with what they had her do and how. She's always been a bit off the cuff, so this was actually okay. I'd probably not have liked if this happened with some other character.
- I loved the "marooned monster." I know we don't actually know HOW she got there, but something in me instinctually felt like there was an almost Klingon-like shame and "death-wish" on her part. Perhaps there was something that happened in her life that made it impossible for her to go back... either way, I knew right away that we would see her demise on the episode at some point. But a great character there. Well-written, great effect, and she remained on my mind well past the end of the episode.
- Liked the "look" of the episode a lot. The ambience and the set was very evocative and just beautiful at times. I couldn't look away. There seemed always something around the corner. There seemed to be a sense of true danger lurking in it all for Ortegas and, tbh, there were times I kept muttering "don't fucking kill her NOW... we've got 1.5 seasons to go!" I guess the fact that she doesn't have TOS plot armor was largely responsible for this happening in my head.
- As to the B plot, I liked that too, including Uhura's dilemma. In the past, it's kind of been the helmsman and the navigator who've been "friends" but on SNW they've slowly built the closeness between Uhura and Ortegas and it works well here. The only thing really is the pretty shitty decision on Pike's part to let Uhura's transgression go. I want to see that decision reversed, to be frank. I want Uhura to go through at least some amount of reprisal for what she did. In fact, realistically speaking, she should be court-martialed for this according to a close friend of mine who is ex-military. And really... I'd have to agree. But I know that story won't happen. Oh well. But there'd be some rich character-building available if they went that route.
- Related to the above point is Ortegas' acknowledgment of what La'an did to the Gorn. Of course, that situation might just have a follow up. Who knows. In the end, neither Ortegas nor La'an matter to the Prime timeline so have at it, I guess.
- My final point is about the Metron. Sigh. Yet again we see how these writers function... nothing they write is reliable and in stone. I get it. They are hamstrung by continuity issues, but was there a screaming need for the Metron to show up and TELL US that nothing that happened thus far with the Gorn matters? That "all will be as it once was?" Lazy, lazy, lazy writing, basically. Oh well. Whatever. It made for an entertaining 50 mins.
9.
- I did like her narration. Aside from Navia being a fairly interesting narrator, I think the character itself fits well with what they had her do and how. She's always been a bit off the cuff, so this was actually okay. I'd probably not have liked if this happened with some other character.
- I loved the "marooned monster." I know we don't actually know HOW she got there, but something in me instinctually felt like there was an almost Klingon-like shame and "death-wish" on her part. Perhaps there was something that happened in her life that made it impossible for her to go back... either way, I knew right away that we would see her demise on the episode at some point. But a great character there. Well-written, great effect, and she remained on my mind well past the end of the episode.
- Liked the "look" of the episode a lot. The ambience and the set was very evocative and just beautiful at times. I couldn't look away. There seemed always something around the corner. There seemed to be a sense of true danger lurking in it all for Ortegas and, tbh, there were times I kept muttering "don't fucking kill her NOW... we've got 1.5 seasons to go!" I guess the fact that she doesn't have TOS plot armor was largely responsible for this happening in my head.
- As to the B plot, I liked that too, including Uhura's dilemma. In the past, it's kind of been the helmsman and the navigator who've been "friends" but on SNW they've slowly built the closeness between Uhura and Ortegas and it works well here. The only thing really is the pretty shitty decision on Pike's part to let Uhura's transgression go. I want to see that decision reversed, to be frank. I want Uhura to go through at least some amount of reprisal for what she did. In fact, realistically speaking, she should be court-martialed for this according to a close friend of mine who is ex-military. And really... I'd have to agree. But I know that story won't happen. Oh well. But there'd be some rich character-building available if they went that route.
- Related to the above point is Ortegas' acknowledgment of what La'an did to the Gorn. Of course, that situation might just have a follow up. Who knows. In the end, neither Ortegas nor La'an matter to the Prime timeline so have at it, I guess.
- My final point is about the Metron. Sigh. Yet again we see how these writers function... nothing they write is reliable and in stone. I get it. They are hamstrung by continuity issues, but was there a screaming need for the Metron to show up and TELL US that nothing that happened thus far with the Gorn matters? That "all will be as it once was?" Lazy, lazy, lazy writing, basically. Oh well. Whatever. It made for an entertaining 50 mins.
9.
It matters to Ortegas, the Metron only erased their involvement, she still remembers everything else that happened.
The title of the episode pretty much gives away why they did what they did.
And everybody still remembers that the Gorn are out there.
But judging from what they told her (and US), that will be "dealt with" in the future. So it doesn't matter what SHE knows or remembers, the point is that things will change bc they need to change.
Enjoyed that more than last week.
Was happy seeing Ortegas to get an episode, and was also pleased to see the Metrons.
Was happy seeing Ortegas to get an episode, and was also pleased to see the Metrons.
I think the Metron was more foreshadowing the events of Arena than implying they were going to make changes to the minds of Humans or Gorn.
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I think that means they will engineer another meeting between the UFP and the Gorn, with different parameters . And through that meeting how the Gorn are perceived will change. (Arena)
On the other hand, in the pilot episode even when T'Kuvma did speak English, he was still impossible to understand.
Ummm ... the incident at Cestus III anybody?
Seems to me that's in "the future".
They pretty much do the same thing to Captain Kirk and get better results than They expected.
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Umm I am talking about the writing and US... not in universe stuff. But... it's okay, I don't really have the time and inclination right now to debate this with you.
The writing was foreshadowing the meeting/fight in "Arena".
Sorry, but nothing needs to change just because Kirk didn't recognize the particular Gorn that he encountered.
It's even possible that what the Metron meant, was that Captain Kirk would have had his particular memories tampered with in order to test the Humans again.
That could also explain why the Gorn he encountered looked so different.
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