Eh, I think the Call of Cthulhu episode was pretty good.
Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x06 - "The Sehlat Who Ate Its Tail"
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Eh, I think the Call of Cthulhu episode was pretty good.
Kirk: Chekov, I need to talk to you about that massive poster you have in your quarters of Pu... er, the early 21st century Russian president.
Chekov:
I thought they said they got the people from around the world?
So the USA might have provided the transport, but the screw up was a group effort.
Or someone let Musk take over NASA.
Had a black rotary desk phone. Loved it! Built to last. Dialing was fun! The original fidget spinner!
Forever warned not to use it during summer rainstorms.
And somehow the phone company knew if you had a second, unauthorized phone because they would deliver a message after you placed a call with it that your call was being recorded. Must have detected a drop in voltage or something.
Yew. From what I could see, I'm pretty sure I had them all. Had an uncle who worked for a telecom company and collected phones.
Get the right amount of THC in you he actually kinda snaps right in.
I think it was to StametsThe first clue that Captain Lorca was evil was his citing Elon Musk to Tilly.
Cursed Temporal Cold War!
Couple more observations:
1. This breaks the Roddenberry Rule of "No Space Pirates."
2. La'an was basically Newt from Alien and escaped the Gorn but was never actually listening down to hear their conversations so I don't know why she's treated as the expert on anything they believed.
3. I think it was a missed opportunity not to have the Scavengers and Federation interact even if that was the "point."
1. This breaks the Roddenberry Rule of "No Space Pirates."
2. La'an was basically Newt from Alien and escaped the Gorn but was never actually listening down to hear their conversations so I don't know why she's treated as the expert on anything they believed.
3. I think it was a missed opportunity not to have the Scavengers and Federation interact even if that was the "point."
Not liking him seems to be more common to me.
He felt a bit "better" for me here than he has in the past but I am starting to "feel" it a bit more here.
He's still chasing Shatner's tail, though.
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I like Wesley because he was handed an impossible task. Kirk in TOS was written very inconsistently and carried mostly by a blend of Shatner's incredible performance and the show's sense of stagey melodrama which made the character feel more like a symbol than a human at times.
Wesley's character feels entirely separate, and so he can't really use either Shatner or Pine as a base (and doing so would be a terrible idea because he'd feel like a cheap knockoff). SNW also feels much more grounded than TOS, so most Shatnerian touches would feel horribly out of place. Wesley has therefore had to somehow create SNW Kirk from scratch, while still leaning into the character's sixty-year legacy, while also being given stupid hurdles by the writers like "you're Kirk from an alternate universe" or "you're a Shatner parody" or "you're Kirk in a musical".
In light of the difficulty of the role, the constant changes in direction and tone he has to deal with, and the fact that he must measure his performance to be entirely distinct from Shatner (or Pine) while still feeling spiritually akin to it, he's done as well as any other actor I can imagine. This episode proves that he's absolutely capable in the role when the script isn't bombarding him with tons of caveats and extra aspects to consider.
Wesley's character feels entirely separate, and so he can't really use either Shatner or Pine as a base (and doing so would be a terrible idea because he'd feel like a cheap knockoff). SNW also feels much more grounded than TOS, so most Shatnerian touches would feel horribly out of place. Wesley has therefore had to somehow create SNW Kirk from scratch, while still leaning into the character's sixty-year legacy, while also being given stupid hurdles by the writers like "you're Kirk from an alternate universe" or "you're a Shatner parody" or "you're Kirk in a musical".
In light of the difficulty of the role, the constant changes in direction and tone he has to deal with, and the fact that he must measure his performance to be entirely distinct from Shatner (or Pine) while still feeling spiritually akin to it, he's done as well as any other actor I can imagine. This episode proves that he's absolutely capable in the role when the script isn't bombarding him with tons of caveats and extra aspects to consider.
Kirk: Spock, if I had been allowed to go on that away mission I was pleading for I and all my people would be toast!
Spock: I therefore take it that once you get your own command, you will not go on any unnecessary away missions?
Kirk: Well, um, you know perhaps I was a bit hasty making unnecessarily dramatic claims just now.
Spock: I therefore take it that once you get your own command, you will not go on any unnecessary away missions?
Kirk: Well, um, you know perhaps I was a bit hasty making unnecessarily dramatic claims just now.
Pike and Kirk are also the same character rewritten under studio mandate.
So Ansom leans more into the diplomatic Kirk and inspiring leader.
Wesley leans slightly more into the crafty tactician. Every time he's on screen, he's pulling some sort of stunt or plan out of his butt.
Neither is the Beastie Boys Kirk.
So Ansom leans more into the diplomatic Kirk and inspiring leader.
Wesley leans slightly more into the crafty tactician. Every time he's on screen, he's pulling some sort of stunt or plan out of his butt.
Neither is the Beastie Boys Kirk.
9
Another fun/good outing that still shows space is dangerous and the unexpected lurks everywhere.
LOVED:
- That after receiving the U.S.S. Farragut's distress call, Pike and the 1701 came in guns blazing. Once the 'alien' ship showed up, there was no attempt at negotiation/diplomacy (which probably WOULD have been tried if it were 100 years later with Picard and the 1701-D because Picard will always put his welfare of his crew and ship second or last); because hey, this ship just destroyed a planet and severely damaged a fellow Federation ship on a peaceful scientific mission. Yes, the weapons were ineffective; but I applauded the quick and decisive effort.
- Seeing an unsure James T. Kirk. I thought that whole episode character arc was well done.
- Seeing a gamble Kirk took fail. Not every idea you have works out the way you want. I also liked that he rejected the 'standard' options he was presented with because he wasn't willing to just sacrifice more of EITHER Federation ship's crewmembers - he was unsure but with Spock's help came up with another gamble that did ultimately pay off.
- Seeing Kirk start to find a Command style and realize that sitting in the BIG Chair is very different from being a first officer. Intellectually, he knew that, but actual experience in a real life and death situation is a lot different and a real crucible of fire.
- Pike's conversation with Kirk once the whole thing was over.
MEH:
- Pelia using the old/analog phones and wiring just so Qrtegas could attempt to direct the firing of the maneuvering thrusters
- Honestly, the manner in which Kirk disabled the Scavenger ship was
to me because what they ejected the nacelles and they did a very small anti matter explosion or something. I'm not usually one for technobabble, but why Kirk and Co. thought dropping and exploding the nacelles would do enough damage to allow the 1701 to escape -- it just came across as 'the plot needs it to work, so it does...
- The fact it took Spock and Co. the ENTIRE episode to finally try a volley of Photon Torpedoes 'down the throat' of the ship...
(Although to be fair, if this was a few years later in TOS 'proper' they may have conveniently FORGOTTEN they had access to such weaponry in the first place. 
)
- The reveal that it's a Human crewed ship from the late 21st century launched from Earth. I thought the idea itself and the reveal itself interesting to a point; but yeah, as many others have already said, some more backstory as to WHY they kept doing this after encountering other Human space vessels and colonies <--- a little insight as to that by maybe hacking into their computer system as a vehicle to explain how our Heroes found out more... <--- To me, that was a bit disappointing. And yeah, I get that you won't always be able to get an answer, and we didn't; but it would have made the story better for me. VMMV
But yeah, overall it was a very good and enjoyable episode that mixed good does of drama and action very much in the style of TOS proper.
Again, a 9 from me.
Another fun/good outing that still shows space is dangerous and the unexpected lurks everywhere.
LOVED:
- That after receiving the U.S.S. Farragut's distress call, Pike and the 1701 came in guns blazing. Once the 'alien' ship showed up, there was no attempt at negotiation/diplomacy (which probably WOULD have been tried if it were 100 years later with Picard and the 1701-D because Picard will always put his welfare of his crew and ship second or last); because hey, this ship just destroyed a planet and severely damaged a fellow Federation ship on a peaceful scientific mission. Yes, the weapons were ineffective; but I applauded the quick and decisive effort.
- Seeing an unsure James T. Kirk. I thought that whole episode character arc was well done.
- Seeing a gamble Kirk took fail. Not every idea you have works out the way you want. I also liked that he rejected the 'standard' options he was presented with because he wasn't willing to just sacrifice more of EITHER Federation ship's crewmembers - he was unsure but with Spock's help came up with another gamble that did ultimately pay off.
- Seeing Kirk start to find a Command style and realize that sitting in the BIG Chair is very different from being a first officer. Intellectually, he knew that, but actual experience in a real life and death situation is a lot different and a real crucible of fire.
- Pike's conversation with Kirk once the whole thing was over.
MEH:
- Pelia using the old/analog phones and wiring just so Qrtegas could attempt to direct the firing of the maneuvering thrusters
- Honestly, the manner in which Kirk disabled the Scavenger ship was
to me because what they ejected the nacelles and they did a very small anti matter explosion or something. I'm not usually one for technobabble, but why Kirk and Co. thought dropping and exploding the nacelles would do enough damage to allow the 1701 to escape -- it just came across as 'the plot needs it to work, so it does...- The fact it took Spock and Co. the ENTIRE episode to finally try a volley of Photon Torpedoes 'down the throat' of the ship...
(Although to be fair, if this was a few years later in TOS 'proper' they may have conveniently FORGOTTEN they had access to such weaponry in the first place. )- The reveal that it's a Human crewed ship from the late 21st century launched from Earth. I thought the idea itself and the reveal itself interesting to a point; but yeah, as many others have already said, some more backstory as to WHY they kept doing this after encountering other Human space vessels and colonies <--- a little insight as to that by maybe hacking into their computer system as a vehicle to explain how our Heroes found out more... <--- To me, that was a bit disappointing. And yeah, I get that you won't always be able to get an answer, and we didn't; but it would have made the story better for me. VMMV
But yeah, overall it was a very good and enjoyable episode that mixed good does of drama and action very much in the style of TOS proper.
Again, a 9 from me.
It didn't. Remember the ship that launched didn't even have Warp Drive.
The inference is that as they gained and developed the new technologies they came across, it allowed the to modify/expand the ship and also to allow the civilization in the ship itself to grow in population. That ship has been in space 200 years and scavenged from any ship it that had technology it could use.
This is a good summary of all of the things that go into this version of Kirk. I'll add one more: Wesley Kirk seems like occasionally he's being written to apologize for flawed aspects of previous versions of Kirk and even of William Shatner in real life. His storyline with Gooding Uhura in "Lost In Translation" seemed almost deliberately crafted to contrast with Pine Kirk and Saldana Uhura's awful relationship in the Kelvin films. And when he apologizes to La'an in "Subspace Rhapsody" because "I shouldn't have interrupted you because you had that thought first," it feels like a reference to Shatner's infamous habit of stealing lines from his co-stars, especially Nichelle Nichols. Later on in the finale, he sings "I have to give credit when due / and if I make captain it'll be thanks to all of you," which is another very anti-Shatnerian sentiment. (I'd feel like I was imagining this, but it does fit well with the general sense I have that a lot of SNW and especially "Rhapsody" have been the franchise acknowledging that Uhura has always deserved better.)
Uhura was able do something to pick up the signal. She said something in dialogue when Kirk said, "But how did you pick it up?" And she did proceed to do the 'line of sight' maneuver to allow Pike and Kirk to communicate via viewscreen and beam a few people off before all hell broke loose further.
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Maybe two states seceded after WWIII...I think some eagle-eyed fan already pointed out that the flag has 50 stars, although TNG: The Royale said that the US flag got 52 stars in 2033. That means that the ship launched before 2033, yet Pelia says it launched in the aftermath of World War 3, which would put the launch in the late 2050s or early 2060s.
OH NO! Continuity error! WORST EPISODE EVER! Trek is ruined, I tell you, ruined!!!!!
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I'm thinking something akin to the Western Forces flag from the A24 Civil War movie:Uhura was able do something to pick up the signal. She said something in dialogue when Kirk said, "But how did you pick it up?" And she did proceed to do the 'line of sight' maneuver to allow Pike and Kirk to communicate via viewscreen and beam a few people off before all hell broke loose further.
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Maybe two states seceded after WWIII...
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