Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x04 - "A Space Adventure Hour"

[Akiraprise]

Meh/10

Every modern holodeck trope got trotted out here. From the name of the room, to safety protocols offline, to the very same commands uttered that do not work when the holodeck is malfunctioning. It leans into every cliche Star Trek idiom it can. I do get a kick when they use TOS sound effects though and the fake Trek scenes did do that. The only funny part was the fake blooper reel.

I don't hate this one but I was not tuned into it. It was on in the background while doing other stuff and it's not one I'll re-watch anytime soon.

 

[Mudd]

I like the way they set up the explanation for the "recreate-tion" room's existence, and the reason for testing it aboard a starship. This is a rare creative use of continuity and backstory to streamline the narrative.

 

[Noname Given]

It's all about Star Trek the Television Show.

And IMO was laughing AT it and not along with it. And that's my major take and complaint regarding the episode.

There have been funny parodies of STAR TREK like the SNL John Belushi as Kirk - which BTW did a outstanding take on the TOS Bridge set piece too; and the film Galaxy Quest.

This episode was hot garbage in comparison.

 

[FederationHistorian]

This was the best of the four episodes, by far. I’m surprise that many found it to be average or poor. It’s a fun episode. Yes, it’s hitting beats done on TNG before, kind of like ENT’s first season. But this feels deliberate for this season of SNW, instead of being simply warmed over leftovers like on ENT.

Well, I guess if the *Enterprise* (in Lower Decks Pakled voice) recommends against implementing the holodeck on starships, it really does get shelved for many decades

They are around by the end of the decade in TAS.

And even without the holodeck, they have what was used on DIS to fall back on.

And even without that, even ENT used holos on an extremely small scale – that flying ball in the shooting range.

 

[cooleddie74]

Yep. Malcolm's spherical holo-remote that he trained with when learning to use the new phase pistols.

 

[eschaton]

This was the best of the four episodes, by far. I’m surprise that many found it to be average or poor. It’s a fun episode. Yes, it’s hitting beats done on TNG before, kind of like ENT’s first season. But this feels deliberate for this season of SNW, instead of being simply warmed over leftovers like on ENT.

This is honestly reminding me of the Peanut Hamper episode of LDS, which I thought was easily one of the top five of the entire series, but around half of Trekkies seemed to hate.

 

[Yistaan]

Shock twist -- La'an never left the holodeck and her bedding Spock was just the holodeck accomodating her fantasies. When she finally is let out for real and gets all over Spock, he gets startled and confused.

 

[eschaton]

Shock twist -- La'an never left the holodeck and her bedding Spock was just the holodeck accomodating her fantasies. When she finally is let out for real and gets all over Spock, he gets startled and confused.

After the first dance scene, with the clear hesitation, I thought the way it was going to go was that La'an smooched holo-Spock, then he dies/she otherwise figures out that he's not real, and feels embarrassed for being the first person in Starfleet history to use the holodeck to rub one out.

Then, she feels so awkward about the whole thing, the subplot is completely put to bed for many episodes, if not the whole damn season.

 

[TheAdmiralty]

The Last Frontier is a better show than Strange New Worlds

 

[Sakonna]

I'm finding the various strong reactions to this one so interesting, because the more I think about it, the more I see this as the ultimate mid episode of SNW. I gave it a 5. A lot of cool moments, a lot of problems, and ultimately it's all a wash in a way that adds up to... it's fine.

It's not the main point of any of this, but I am impressed with how effortlessly this season is reconciling all these larger Trek continuity issues, but as asides. They're not making "reconciling continuity issues" the main story (which was the fatal mistake of late era Enterprise), they're doing it almost as a side effect of the stories they are telling, and that's such a smart approach.

"Hegemony, Part II" tracks us seamlessly into "Arena", even providing an explanation for the slow lumbering Gorn. "Wedding Bell Blues" weaves perfectly into a "Q And The Grey"/"Wedding Bell"/"Gothos"/"Q2" chronology, but also stands on its own without you needing to know about any of those other episodes.

And now this episode pulls together Disco's battle simulator, TAS's rec room, and TNG's brand new holodeck into a coherent chronology.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Then, she feels so awkward about the whole thing, the subplot is completely put to bed for many episodes, if not the whole damn season.

I wonder how many more episodes until they end up in bed together?

 

[Fateor]

I'm finding the various strong reactions to this one so interesting, because the more I think about it, the more I see this as the ultimate mid episode of SNW. I gave it a 5. A lot of cool moments, a lot of problems, and ultimately it's all a wash in a way that adds up to... it's fine.

What problems?

 

[Bad Thoughts]

So much USS Callister.

 

[HotRod]

That's the real world, not the world of Star Trek. Spock had romantic entanglements here and there and even Dax was crushing on him, but his love life was not a driving aspect of his character. I wouldn't call Nimoy's Spock, within the world of Trek, a stud muffin.

You kidding? Spock had more game than anyone else on that ship, Kirk included.

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[Greg Cox]

Wow ... Talk about being on the nose.

So many call backs to actual people involved with and Trek history itself in the real world, it's quite overwhelming at first.

I had to pause the episode and think about what it meant to my own personal history with the show.

I ended up giving it a 9, but I'm not sure at this point if the episode is eventually going to end up being one of my favorites or not.

A whole lot to digest.

Am I the only one who saw the holodeck characters as being representations of Roddenberry, Lucille Ball as well as Shatner?

They even gave the most important speech about what Star Trek represents to the character who portrays Nichelle Nichols.

I think the name "Sunny Lupino" was also a partial homage to Ida Lupino, who was a pioneering leading-lady-turned-director back in the day.

 

[eschaton]

You kidding? Spock had more game than anyone else on that ship, Kirk included.

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This was - far and away - the worst romance Spock got in TOS.

Droxine is literally nothing but a pretty face, and has nothing in common with Spock whatsoever. She's vapid rich girl. Why does Spock flirt with her, but needs to be under the influence of spores to give Leila Kalomi (an actual scientist) the time of day.

I know why the stereotypical guy in the mid 1960s would find Droxine hot, but I expect better from Spock.

 

[Charles Phipps]

This was - far and away - the worst romance Spock got in TOS.

Droxine is literally nothing but a pretty face, and has nothing in common with Spock whatsoever. She's vapid rich girl. Why does Spock flirt with her, but needs to be under the influence of spores to give Leila Kalomi (an actual scientist) the time of day.

I know why the stereotypical guy in the mid 1960s would find Droxine hot, but I expect better from Spock.

Spock: Human biological drives.

McCoy: Ah. So there is some red blood in you after all.

Spock: Don't be silly, doctor. It is all green.

 

[HotRod]

Why does Spock flirt with her

I mean....

 

[eschaton]

I mean....

Again, yes, she's traditionally hot (though I'd not say she's anywhere near the cutest of the many hot women from TOS). But Spock is someone who values intelligence, and she comes across as a bit of a dullard. And he's also been characterized as being very reticent regarding feelings in TOS up until this point, having repeatedly rebuffed the advances of others.

He just behaves hugely out-of-character here, and it can't help but make me respect him less. Like when a friend of yours strings along a hot, dumb woman he has no intentions of ever being in a relationship with.

 

[Yistaan]

Again, yes, she's traditionally hot (though I'd not say she's anywhere near the cutest of the many hot women from TOS). But Spock is someone who values intelligence, and she comes across as a bit of a dullard. And he's also been characterized as being very reticent regarding feelings in TOS up until this point, having repeatedly rebuffed the advances of others.

He just behaves hugely out-of-character here, and it can't help but make me respect him less. Like when a friend of yours strings along a hot, dumb woman he has no intentions of ever being in a relationship with.

So basically SNW is more like TOS than critics care to admit, as in both cases by the 3rd season they were just having Spock date random pretty women for drama or ratings or whatever