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Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x02 - "Wedding Bell Blues"

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DS9 showed that Nog getting a biosynthetic leg was kind of a big deal, yet here Ortegas gets a regenerated hand offscreen with no one talking about it. The establishment of biofilters as early as SNW also throws a bunch of transporter episodes into disarray, most prominently now that the Reliant biofilters somehow didn't detect the Ceti eels in Terrell and Chekov in Wrath of Khan.

I could be wrong, but my recollection was Nog's issues with his leg were just psychosomatic due to his PTSD. There was nothing at all wrong with it.
 
Well it's their show so I'm going by what they are saying. I wish it weren't so because I always liked that we never knew. It was one of those fun harmless debates star trek fans gave had for decades.
It's their show and they say it's Prime yet people still debate that.

I'm just borrowing a page from that playbook. On screen or doesn't count.
 
They're debating on it lol


Because it's never actually said *in* the actual episode that he's a Q, it necessitated a debate to take it from the comments from the producers.

Memory Alpha's official take is everything onscreen is canon, and nothing that creators say that happens offscreen is canon.

Works out horribly in a few cases, like the fake commercial at the end of The Trouble with Edward.
 
It's their show and they say it's Prime yet people still debate that.

I'm just borrowing a page from that playbook. On screen or doesn't count.

It's prime until a future writer/producer says it isn't. It doesn't fit well at all. I think they missed the mark by a mile when it comes to the designs and tech. Next up a TNG holodeck. Maybe just a holoroom. Who knows.
 
Spock didn't see Trelane's true appearance.
Trelane was disguising his look. There's a couple shots where you can see what he really looked like in a reflection.

That's why Spock called him a Vulcan at the Bar, and later everyone was referring to him as an Andorian when he was the Wedding Planner.

His name is also never said in the episode.
Oh please. He behaved the same way, he used the phrase "Tally-Ho!" his father came to fetch him at the end, and he was wearing the same damn jacket.

Spock is not an idiot. He would notice and mention the similarities.
It still effected everyone, they didn't lose their memories.
The episode would've made a lot more sense if they had.

And my objection isn't that "It didn't affect everyone." My objection was that we were spending the majority of the episode on something that wasn't real, that the main characters knew wasn't real. It was, for all intents and purposes, a dream.
 
I like this quote and seems appropos:
"Star Trek was again a very inconsistent show which at times sparkled with true ingenuity and pure science fiction approaches. At other times it was more carnival-like, and very much more the creature of television than the creature of a legitimate literary form."
 
It's prime until a future writer/producer says it isn't.
And when has that ever happened? Yeah, the Animated Series kinda comes and goes, but it's still treated as mostly Canon.
It doesn't fit well at all.
Sure it does. I was a fan of The Original Series before I was a fan of anything else, and I think it fits perfectly fine
I think they missed the mark by a mile when it comes to the designs and tech.
It looks like a visually updated version of The Original Series series. I don't know what else to tell you. I also think it's the best looking series in the entire franchise. I'm at a loss to find a criticism.
 
Echoing the people who say that it's a shame SNW keeps regurgitating stuff from TOS. The callbacks to the Gorn and Amok Time annoyed me in the first season (though SNW's T'Pring is a superb character) but it's just getting ludicrous now, I actually scowled at the almost one-for-one recreation of The Squire of Gothos' ending. There's a trend in a lot of modern interpretations of older franchises where settings are seen as toolkits in which you mix and match existing things in an endless recursive loop of self-referential callbacks, which I think it's a real shame.

To get the positives in first, Darby was a superb Trelane even if the character's presence was questionable, the guy playing Korby was very likeable, and as always you can tell the actors had fun making the episode, which does a lot to keep the mood high. Pike's crap speech also properly made me laugh, excellent work from Mount. Also the bartender kicks ass.

Otherwise, though, the show's starting to really grate on me, which sucks considering the first season was by and large very promising. The Spock and Chapel romance, which was initially very effective and a brilliant reinterpretation of the characters, has slipped into overwrought melodrama at this point IMO, and not in a positive way. It's starting to get intrusive; I wonder if maybe the showrunners saw how positively people reacted to it at first and then leaned into it way too hard to the point where it now consumes much of the show.

Ethan Peck has been one of the greatest things to happen to Star Trek in recent years and his Spock is excellent, but I feel like some of these scripts aren't serving him well - he's constantly being called on to play Spock as emotionally volatile, which works well in very short bursts, but the way it's been sustained for so long now is turning me off the character despite Peck's consistently top-tier work.
 
So that was clearly meant to be Q and Trelane, but neither character is named in the episode or end credits. The only hint of Trelane is some of the stuff on his final costume that matches TOS.

in one of the novels Trelane was implied to be the son of Q, but that was before Voyager aired
Yeah, the muttonchops totally said 'Trelane' to men, and damned if the voice of his 'father' didn't sound like John DeLancie to my ear. I didn't check the credits, though.
 
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