Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x02 - "Wedding Bell Blues"

[Michael]

I’ve seen some people mention that there was a line establishing that the Trelane we see in this episode already lived through the experiences of “The Squire of Gothos” and went back in time for these shenanigans. I totally missed this. Where was that implied and what exactly is the line?

 

[TRON JA307020]

I’ve seen some people mention that there was a line establishing that the Trelane we see in this episode already lived through the experiences of “The Squire of Gothos” and went back in time for these shenanigans. I totally missed this. Where was that implied and what exactly is the line?

Possibly. Since the Q don't live in linear time. Maybe that's why he picked Spock to mess with. He already knew him from the squire of gothos.

 

[Yistaan]

I’ve seen some people mention that there was a line establishing that the Trelane we see in this episode already lived through the experiences of “The Squire of Gothos” and went back in time for these shenanigans. I totally missed this. Where was that implied and what exactly is the line?

It's never said BUT Trelane seemed unfamiliar with Earth, was viewing it from hundreds of light years away and had this distorted depiction of Earth living in the Victorian era in TOS. He shows none of these misunderstandings in SNW (or Voyager if he's Q Jr), indicating TOS is earliest in Trelane's timeline.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Trelane seems to already know Spock and Q mentions that he will have to teach Trelane "the consequences of disobedience again".

 

[valkyrie013]

I enjoyed it, was funny.
But do wish they would stop leaning on TOS like a crutch. Have Pike and crew do there own thing, not some TOS thing.. but earlier.

 

[aquova]

Also, did we watch Scotty develop alcoholic tendencies in the background of this episode?

 

[TRON JA307020]

I enjoyed it, was funny.
But do wish they would stop leaning on TOS like a crutch. Have Pike and crew do there own thing, not some TOS thing.. but earlier.

Yeah. It's getting too reliable on TOS. I wish we would have gotten a true Pike series and the crew we saw in The Cage. The producers couldn't even wait to bring in Kirk at the end.We got him the first season. Just too much. I wish they would have started the series right after The Cage.

 

[Noname Given]

Yeah, Trelane's a Q, but his father isn't necessarily THE Q. Given the fact every member of the Continuum with the exceptions of Trelane and Quinn go by "Q" as an identifier and even formal name, why can't another Q also have John De Lancie's voice?

Guinan: "Not all the Q are alike...Some are almost respectable." - TNG S2 Q-Who.

 

[cooleddie74]

Quinn on VOY was truly the most noble of all the Q we've seen.

 

[Yistaan]

Also, did we watch Scotty develop alcoholic tendencies in the background of this episode?

Pelia drove him to it and she also has a sordid affair with him offscreen, ruining him for other women as seen in TOS: Wolf in the Fold.

 

[TRON JA307020]

I have to say. I really like The Cage depiction of the pikr years and the way things looked better in The Cage. The ship was smaller and everything felt like a true predecessor to TNG in terms if ship size and tech. This version has more advanced equipment even than what tng had. This show is just blurring the lines of that nice flow we used to have between time periods.

 

[Yistaan]

I have to say. I really like The Cage depiction of the pikr years and the way things looked better in The Cage. The ship was smaller and everything felt like a true predecessor to TNG in terms if ship size and tech. This version has more advanced equipment even than what tng had. This show is just blurring the lines of that nice flow we used to have between time periods.

DS9 showed that Nog getting a biosynthetic leg was kind of a big deal, yet here Ortegas gets a regenerated hand offscreen with no one talking about it. The establishment of biofilters as early as SNW also throws a bunch of transporter episodes into disarray, most prominently now that the Reliant biofilters somehow didn't detect the Ceti eels in Terrell and Chekov in Wrath of Khan.

 

[TRON JA307020]

DS9 showed that Nog getting a biosynthetic leg was kind of a big deal, yet here Ortegas gets a regenerated hand offscreen with no one talking about it. The establishment of biofilters as early as SNW also throws a bunch of transporter episodes into disarray, most prominently now that the Reliant biofilters somehow didn't detect the Ceti eels in Terrell and Chekov in Wrath of Khan.

Exactly. If they couldn't keep the tech or characters straight I would rather they have just made a brand new show in the 25th century with a new crew. Clean slate. Just like when TNG started. They were just too in love with legacy characters they didn't understand and tech they didn't understand. This show does not fit in easily with TOS at all and even not well with later shows.

 

[Aragorn]

During the rehearsal when Korby was sent off to the sidelines, is it just me or was it obvious in his shots that his background wasn't real?

 

[HotRod]

This version has more advanced equipment even than what tng had.

Such as?

DS9 showed that Nog getting a biosynthetic leg was kind of a big deal

It did? Plus, there's a bit of a difference between getting a whole new leg and replacing a couple fingers.

The establishment of biofilters as early as SNW also throws a bunch of transporter episodes into disarray

Biofilters have always worked or not worked at the convenience of the plot.

This show does not fit in easily with TOS

Fits perfectly fine to me.

 

[UssGlenn]

there's a bit of a difference between getting a whole new leg and replacing a couple fingers.

Yeah, humans can regrow fingertips as long as it's before the nailbed. All they need to do is extend the range with medical tech. The more advanced you get the further up the limb you can regrow.

 

[Nerys Myk]

That seems to be beyond the eras technical capabilities from the original continuity imo.... I'm not really complaining because I think the timeline has been rewritten but TOS medical technology seemed a bit limited, they couldn't even help miramanee.

McCoy had kidney growing pills in TVH. The medical technology of the 23rd Century operates at the needs of the plot. Miramanee dies because the plot demanded it.

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

It was an Edosian. The very first one we've seen in live action!

Maybe it's my sick mind but the way Pike and Batell were talking about the bartender I thought they were weighing up inviting her to a threesome.

Would have been cool because despite what it thinks of itself Star Trek is still quite square sexually.

 

[aquova]

Maybe it's my sick mind but the way Pike and Batell were talking about the bartender I thought they were weighing up inviting her to a threesome.

I 100% thought the same thing (although it's Pike and Number One, not Batel). They watch her mix drinks for a while, then turn to each other and say "are you thinking what I'm thinking". I rewatched the scene and I still can't tell if the writers were trying to be cheeky, or if it's just a really weird line.

 

[marillion]

Loved it. Loved the call back (or forward, I guess) to Trelane and Q.

I continue to love how this show doesn't might not taking itself too seriously sometimes. The look and feel fit perfectly into the TOS universe. If they had the budget and technology for this back in the 1960s, I firmly believe this is what it would have looked like.

An amazing start to the season!!