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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x10 - "Hegemony"

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Except, the text of Arena states that this is an "unknown ship." They are not told anything until after Kirk is taken.

The data points, such that they are, are quite limited from that episode. We are taking one encounter and generalizing it to an entire interstellar civilization and that they must all behave the same.

FWIW that's the trope with all Trek alien species: they're all largely the same. The oddballs are so unique they get episodes focused on them.
 
FWIW that's the trope with all Trek alien species: they're all largely the same. The oddballs are so unique they get episodes focused on them.
Yes, and it's a damn frustrating trope that would do well to be disposed off quickly and efficiently.

So, yeah, at this point it's worth about as much as a snowball in August in the Mojave Desert.
 
That has to be the laziest colony design so far. It’s like they just filmed a small town for a few minutes. :)
 
That has to be the laziest colony design so far. It’s like they just filmed a small town for a few minutes. :)
It was a backlot set that looks like a small town. And of course the colonists patterned their colony after the small town aesthetic. (As mentioned in the episode.)
No "lazier" than filming here for "This Side of Paradise"
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Or here for Operation — Annihilate!
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Retro was very popular for mid 23rd Century colony design.
 
Oooooh. just noticed something for the nitpickers; Chapel wears an Enterprise jacket as she's coming to. Oh noes, she was planetside even, wouldn't she have had time to equip a Cayuga badge?? Oh, noohsies...

Enterprise loyalty kix a$$ even a century after the NX-01, baby
 
We know they did ship arm patches in the 2140s, 2150s and into the 2160s with the earliest Federation Starfleet crews such as that of the U.S.S. Franklin but after that things seemed to transition to just a Starfleet emblem on the breast and not much if anything else. By 2233 ships like the Kelvin used crew uniforms that had a bare minimum of I.D. insignia.
 
Oooooh. just noticed something for the nitpickers; Chapel wears an Enterprise jacket as she's coming to. Oh noes, she was planetside even, wouldn't she have had time to equip a Cayuga badge?? Oh, noohsies...

Enterprise loyalty kix a$$ even a century after the NX-01, baby
Christine wasn't there as a Cayuga crew member.
Captain Batel even thanks her for volunteering to help out.
She is still an Enterprise crew member till she officially arrives at Korby's Labs and then only for three months.
The dialogue in Subspace Rhapsody made it clear that this was a temporary assignment.
 
The bridge fight sequence with Spock/Christine/Gorny though was really fun and well executed (though I'm not clear why a lone adult Gorn was sent to wander the saucer section randomly to access the computer with no back-up/equipment etc).
Are we even sure that's the same Gorn Chapel saw? There may have been others scattered through the saucer.
They watched it and put their own spin on the species. It's happened time and time again
TNG took the Klingons further and further away from the Soviet stand ins they were in TOS.
ENT took a basically one off alien, the Andorians and built something new out of them. (No ice powers though)
Then there's the Vulcans. Cold, logical, science forward yet somehow with a mystical aura full of weird psi-rituals. Not sure that was in cards on day one.
Don't forget the Cardassians. They were introduced as weaklings that needed Enterprise to help stop a single rampaging Federation starship. Then two years later they're a major galactic power.
 
Didn't each Constitution class ship crewman have a different badge?

The Exeter crew, and Captain Tracey, had a rectangular badge.

Commodore Decker wore a different badge, too, for the Constellation.

The Defiant crew also wore a different badge.
 
Didn't each Constitution class ship crewman have a different badge?

The Exeter crew, and Captain Tracey, had a rectangular badge.

Commodore Decker wore a different badge, too, for the Constellation.

The Defiant crew also wore a different badge.
Commodore Decker was the only person we saw wearing the pretzel badge aboard the Constellation, as there were no other Constellation survivors to appear in uniform. There was no onscreen explanation for the pretzel badge, and Justman didn't mention it in his memo complaining about the Exeter badge. Additionally, in "Court-Martial," Kirk's former classmates giving him grief over the loss of Ben Finney wore the standard Starfleet delta, not the Starbase/Starfleet Command flower. Presumably, they were assigned to other ships and not under Kirk's command on the Enterprise, otherwise they'd be more circumspect in mouthing off to Kirk in the bar.

In "The Tholian Web," the badges were either missing or were the regular Starfleet delta.
In the seventies, a fan myth took hold that each ship had its own badge, and when those fans went to work on TNG and later productions, they carried that assumption with them when they wrote things like the Encyclopedias and Chronologies and Technical Manuals and other "reference fiction." The Defiant didn't actually get its own badge until 2005's "In A Mirror Darkly."
 
Commodore Decker was the only person we saw wearing the pretzel badge aboard the Constellation, as there were no other Constellation survivors to appear in uniform. There was no onscreen explanation for the pretzel badge, and Justman didn't mention it in his memo complaining about the Exeter badge. Additionally, in "Court-Martial," Kirk's former classmates giving him grief over the loss of Ben Finney wore the standard Starfleet delta, not the Starbase/Starfleet Command flower. Presumably, they were assigned to other ships and not under Kirk's command on the Enterprise, otherwise they'd be more circumspect in mouthing off to Kirk in the bar.

In "The Tholian Web," the badges were either missing or were the regular Starfleet delta.
In the seventies, a fan myth took hold that each ship had its own badge, and when those fans went to work on TNG and later productions, they carried that assumption with them when they wrote things like the Encyclopedias and Chronologies and Technical Manuals and other "reference fiction." The Defiant didn't actually get its own badge until 2005's "In A Mirror Darkly."

Pretzel badge... yes, that was the word I was looking for to describe Decker's. I know him being the only survivor, we never see his badge again.

For "THE THOLIAN WEB", I might be misremembering. I'll be doing a rewatch after my wife and I finish DS9.

Regarding Justman not mentioning the Exeter badge, looking at the date of the above memo, I think he was talking about Captain Tracey. If I remember correctly, "THE OMEGA GLORY was filmed around the time of that memo, and he did say 'last season on "CHARLIE X"'. The only other captain we saw in season 2 was Tracey and Commodores Decker and Wesley.
 
Pretzel badge... yes, that was the word I was looking for to describe Decker's. I know him being the only survivor, we never see his badge again.

For "THE THOLIAN WEB", I might be misremembering. I'll be doing a rewatch after my wife and I finish DS9.

Regarding Justman not mentioning the Exeter badge, looking at the date of the above memo, I think he was talking about Captain Tracey. If I remember correctly, "THE OMEGA GLORY was filmed around the time of that memo, and he did say 'last season on "CHARLIE X"'. The only other captain we saw in season 2 was Tracey and Commodores Decker and Wesley.
Yes, Justman was complaining about the Exeter badge. Decker's badge in " The Doomsday Machine" appears to have slipped his memory, since he neglects to mention it while bringing up the badges worn by the Antares crew in "Charlie X."
 
Yes, Justman was complaining about the Exeter badge. Decker's badge in " The Doomsday Machine" appears to have slipped his memory, since he neglects to mention it while bringing up the badges worn by the Antares crew in "Charlie X."

Terrance Dicks, one-time showrunner and episode novelist par excellence of Doctor Who, once stated that in the pre-internet age "canon was what the production team could remember on any given day".
 
Christine wasn't there as a Cayuga crew member.
Captain Batel even thanks her for volunteering to help out.
She is still an Enterprise crew member till she officially arrives at Korby's Labs and then only for three months.
The dialogue in Subspace Rhapsody made it clear that this was a temporary assignment.
Technically, she's not Enterprise crew either, she's a civilian on a research assignment. I think they have been a bit free and easy giving her a lot of authority throughout the show since M'Benga should have his own chief nurse who would be Starfleet, and probably an officer (most likely an ensign) who can be seen in the background. That said, they only have 200 crew so medical staff might be lighter.
 
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