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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x09 - "Subspace Rhapsody"

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Just going to say it straight...maybe a bad choice of workds...

Sam Goddamn Kirk is the breakout man-crush in this series for me. Just something delicious about him from his clear intelligence and competence, to the confidence in himself, to the hair (what is it with this show and class haircuts) and he just exudes cool - especially in Chapel's number
 
Ok... that was amusing...

Ah, Engineers getting the Enterprise into trouble since forever.

The 'Apologies' song was amusing.

I really like the titles in song form.

Doc M'Benga does not like bunnies heh? Wonder where I have seen that before....

I like the conference room scene - very Trek.

Why is Kirk there? Again? Oh... yeah romance stuff.

Strong song from La'an there.

Why is Kirk making modifications? Is there no other engineers on Enterprise?

Why is the deflector controlled from the transporter room?

The entire fleet is only 12 ships?

Those visible zips still annoy me - Roddenberry was right that not seeing stuff like that makes things seem more futuristic.

Should an alarm go off when someone turns off the gravity in a room?

General Garkog looks vaguely familiar.... but oddly its not the actor I thought it was.

The scene in the bar needed some singing extras.

No dancing Tellerite... shame.

La'an and Kirk.... snog already!

Kirk is already going out with Carol, and she is pregnant? Wow. Poor La'an.

Seriously does no one else work in Engineering?

Spock's Ex song was hard...

Uhura surrounded by equations? Well there is a meme....

I do like that Grand Finale plan. Very smart Uhura there.

Dancing Klingons!! Now that is something I never, ever see!

Nearly late to the dance number there Spock!

Ship coordinated movements and what a KaBoom!

Great to hear the original Trek theme!

"No camping unless it comes with room service" - I agree.

Spock hungover again... lol.

Some good numbers in this episode, nothing likely to earworm for me, but nice stuff.

Dancing was good, you could spot the trained people, and I like Pella and Pike's little boogie on the Bridge after the KABOOM.

One has to wonder if this cast was picked because they could sing?

Overall, not as terrible or as silly as I thought it would be, still a big mood change from last weeks events, but I am glad this and Those Old Scientists where not back-to-back.
 
LMAO!!

I'm going to wait for awhile before rating this because I'm a bit confused. I went into this expecting it to be a 1 or less. It actually had some stories behind it. Bringing out people's secrets through singing was a nice touch. I actually laughed out loud when the singing Klingons appeared.
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I will say it was much better than what I was expecting.
 
She didn’t know what she wanted when she had it. Happens all the time.
I disagree, Chapel knows exactly what she has with Spock, but Boimler's interference has placed doubt in her mind as to whether it is the appropriate thing for Spock's future.
She's giving him up because she loves him dearly and doesn't want to be the thing that holds him back.
 
LMAO!!

I'm going to wait for awhile before rating this because I'm a bit confused. I went into this expecting it to be a 1 or less. It actually had some stories behind it. Bringing out people's secrets through singing was a nice touch. I actually laughed out loud when the singing Klingons appeared.
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I will say it was much better than what I was expecting.
Yeah this episode was def not a watch and forget, it had character growth and important beats.
 
She has been giving him looks. I don't know if it means anything, or if my shipping brain is just moving at full steam, but it seems like something is there. Then again, it could be the very something we see in TOS, too. Uhura was always warm and familiar with Spock. That there might be deep affection there wouldn't be a surprise.
Uhura has sympathy for what Spock and Chapel are going through, she's seen both sides of the relationship.
I doubt very much she feels anything more than sympathetic love for them both and would never want to be something that interferes with that pairing.
If she does love Spock, it's a sisterly love.
 
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this Nerdist article says they shot both the K-pop version and a Klingon Opera Version. They felt the opera was too similar to the singing in the rest of the episode, and went with the K-pop for contrast.

Probably for the best, unless there were some alternate versions of earlier scenes, as well. Dishonor, fah! A lot of Klingons would flip their shit to be living in the middle of an epic opera. The battlecruisers would be coming to the anomaly to make sure its glory was spread throughout the galaxy.

I would've liked to hear it, though. I felt like La'an was teasing me, specifically, with suggesting she was about to do a sea-shanty (why should The Expanse have the monopoly on space shanties? Next season, have a couple of engineers in a Jefferies Tube singing to keep time while they synchronize warp coils or something). When I heard the opening title music change, I was really hoping to hear "Beyond the Rim of the Starlight" over the opening credits (I ask you, will there ever be a better time to actually use the lyrics in actual Star Trek?). And I've been feeling for a few weeks now that they've been lining up to do Spock and Uhura's first rec-room improv duet, but that, too, can happen at any time.

So, bottom line, I wanted the extra-long musical episode to be extra-longer and with even more music. Engineering looked particularly good this week, by the way, but I guess they used all their tricks on that, because the Klingon bridge looked really fakey, though I suppose I can handwave the obvious flat backdrop as part of the who music-video ambiance.
 
Kirk controlling Sock's brainless body with a controller with like two buttons on it.

I said “one of” the stupidest and most absurd plots. That’s RIGHT up there too, of course. Although at least you can kind of get around that with “advanced technology can seem godlike” angle which covers a whole multitude of sins in Trek. Pointing out another stupid plot doesn’t negate this one, however. I’m not even saying I didn’t like it. I’m just saying it’s stupid, and that’s ok.
 
This episode had an incredibly stupid premise even in-universe (they needed a Trelane-esque being to justify it) but it was something I forgive a lot of flaws due to the emotional development.

Yes! That would actually have worked for me, say like a Q-esque prank on the crew. Using technobabble to justify the absurdity was absolutely the wrong call.
 
It was fine, in the very same sense that a lot of Star Trek is fine.

But at the same time, t's a prime example of why TV musicals generally don't work. Because unless everyone is willing to fully commit and go the extra mile, it's just not going to turn out well.

The songs were all very weak. The harmonies were bland and vanilla, and the melodies were all over the place -- yet still lacked any interesting deviation. More importantly (and to my greater point), there was little in sonic texture and flourish -- the little touches that make great songs great. They were the kinds of songs you'd expect out of all those copycat teen musicals of the 2010s. Boring and forgettable. But I guess safe?

And consider the whole conceit about the Enterprise being the "Starship Earth" and all the would-be music that represents. Now, I don't expect them to brandish the entire breadth of human music, but I expect more than just slight deviations of the same sub-genre.

I acknowledge there is some potential cultural insensitivity to be had here. I mean, having La'an sing against the "Indian pentatonic" with a sitar playing in the background probably wouldn't have been very good. But I think brining is some African percussionists and choir with Gooding spending a few days with a Swahili language coach, good have done really tastefully and eloquently. And it would have been amazing.

Then there's Peck's song. This should have been so much more interesting than it was. Have Spock pull his lyre and play something alien sounding -- like have him dance some arpeggios around the flat (diminished) fifth of the locrian scale (Think Bjork.) and then have the hook resolve some place unique and unexpected.

And speaking of alien, the Klingon "gag" at the end shouldn't have been a gag at all. It could have easily been its own cool thing. Like, I'm sure it wouldn't have been too hard for them to find someone who could la lay some rhyme and have a good enough ear that he could learn a little Klingon on the fly. And then let him free form, sprinkling in some of the Klingon bits here and there.

But even sticking to Western music. Doesn't Mount play the guitar. I feel like a classic Carteresque folk-country song would have been very fitting for Pike. I can picture the main cast forming a 23 century jugband around him, but with all the gizmos and bits and bots instead of washboards and buckets. And I mean, there's even a sort of metatext there, as there always been a very jugbandish nature to how Star Trek props have historically been created.

Kirk should have gone straight for the 80s power ballad. I know it. You know. We all know it.

Then there is the [lack of] choreography. It was so sparse that it wasn't so much a musical as it was an episode with singing. Even the little red shirt number at the end was about as basic as it gets. And short. So much of the episode felt static. Musicals should never be static.

The scene where Una turns off the gravity could have been something really special. Instead, they just floated there for a few short moments. I get that zero-G isn't easy to do. But I think the inherent pretense would have been good enough to wave way simple wire work. Now, of course this would have meant a lot of extra work for Romijn and Cong, but that's what I mean by 'going the extra mile'. And I believe, given their professionalism and love for the show, they both would have been more than up to the task. And the thing is, not only could this have been amazing to see on screen, it would have been the sort of thing that generates legit industry buzz.

And probably the single biggest failure -- to the point I'm legit dumbfounded by it -- is the lack of costuming. I mean, they've already got the magical McGuffin in place, there's absolutely no excuse they couldn't Treknobablle wild and crazy costume changes in. What makes this even more perplexing is the SNW costume department is so damn good. Why not give them the opportunity to flex their muscles a little bit? Look what they did with the fairy tale last season.

I think this "could have been" really accumulates in Bush's song -- which I do think was the most sonically interesting of them all. I got the sense they were trying to go for a Nancy Sinatra vibe. So go all in. Get that slapping stand-up bass and twangy 60s Stratocaster. And I find the whole "it doesn't match TOS argument" utterly tiresome, and yet I think this would have been the perfect opportunity to turn into the skid. Like Bush snaps her fingers and suddenly the whole lounge is TOSified. The uniforms the mini skirts the go-go boots. And the lights, Star Trek has always been the show with the flashing lights. Let's see lots of flashing lights! And a smoke machine. Pure UFO psychedelia. Yeah, Baby, yeah! But in the end, it was way more Anna Kendrick than Nancy Sinatra.

And then there's the final song. It should have been so much more. They set up this entire conceit and plot point about it being big and crazy. It should have been. There should have been tempo changes and key changes. Even genre changes. Overtones and undertones. Mixed melodies. Counterpoint. Maybe a canon somewhere. Then it all comes into focus with the final ensemble. Cacophony into harmony. Chaos into Cosmos. Instead, it was just another number from High School Pitch Imperfect Musical XII: So Very Tired. Bland. Boring. And forgettable.
 
And points off the series/season for only doing 10-episode stretches so we never get to re all see the Spock/Chapel ship. They hook-up, go through some turbulence, she gets a 3-month fellowship (?!), they break-up. Huh?
I was a bit surprised at how quickly they moved through both the T'Pring and Chapel relationships with Spock. By this point of the second season, we're really at the how things stand in TOS. He's on a break with T'Pring, Chapel is history, and he's resolved to work harder at controlling his emotions.

That's not really a problem itself. Just faster than expected. I only hope that doesn't mean that they're making fewer seasons of SNW than we're hoping for (i.e., that they're not squeezing all this in before the series ends.)
 
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Hmm... Do we really want brooding, self-denigrating Pike who knocks back drinks and thinks of Orion slave women back?

Me neither.

Whenever "Previously, on Star Trek: Strange New Worlds" shows a couple kissing, you just know they're as doomed as Matt Decker's ship.

The poor devils.
 
Well.

Hmm.

Yes.

Quite.

Err...

I think we can all agree that this is certainly an episode that happened.
 
Yes! That would actually have worked for me, say like a Q-esque prank on the crew. Using technobabble to justify the absurdity was absolutely the wrong call.
I don't know. I like it being a phenomenon in space that was causing it as opposed to it having to be the villain of the week. To me, Star Trek needs more of things like this, were it's a completely alien object or being that can't be understood.
 
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