I think we have to assume that that dialogue, from the very episode, was mostly intended for the audience back in the 1966, not the characters. It was a quick way to introduce Spock to a TV audience who had no idea what a Vulcan was.
Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x06 - "Lost in Translation"
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I think we have to assume that that dialogue, from the very episode, was mostly intended for the audience back in the 1966, not the characters. It was a quick way to introduce Spock to a TV audience who had no idea what a Vulcan was.
I've been in a relationship for 15 years and there are times my wife's apparent indifference still surprises me.
McCoy was still making "Vulcans say and do weird-ass things" jokes nearly THIRTY YEARS AFTER HE AND SPOCK BEGAN SERVING TOGETHER.
Absolutely true, but all of those characters were based on books, where the original character-image is up to each reader.
I mean, James Bond and Batman are film and TV series as well. Batman famously changed actors of characters with little concern for continuity.
It's part of the performance arts that actors are going to change.
Every character in dramatic fiction history began as words on a page.
But hey, straw man away.
M'Benga: The guy's a menace, a walking HR violation constantly making speciest comments! But nooo, one vial of green steroids and I'm out as chief medical officer and Mr. speciest against Vulcans gets the job!
Yep that's a big difference. Patrick Stewart will be associated with Picard in a way that he won't be with Charles Xavier, who existed in comic book and animated form and in X-Men fans' imaginations long before Stewart took the role.
And the Romulans of the 23rd Century only have sub-light Impulse Drive:
TOS S1 Balance Of Terror:
http://www.chakoteya.net/StarTrek/9.htm
And Data went to Starfleet Academy in 2278:
TNG S1 Encounter At Farpoint:
http://www.chakoteya.net/NextGen/101.htm
And was found 26 years prior to the events of
TNG S1 Datalore:
http://www.chakoteya.net/NextGen/114.htm
But wait TNG S1 takes place in 2364:
TNG S1 The Neutral Zone:
http://www.chakoteya.net/NextGen/126.htm
...oh, wait...if Data was found 26 years before 2364 (circa 2338), how did he attend the Academy in 2278 - OR - if you posit he attended in 2378, that 14 years in the future from TNG S1 Encounter At Farpoint...
Or BETTER YET - we can accept that bacross ALL Star Trek TV and feature film productions, 'canon' has NEVER BEEN CONSISTENT, and stop obsessing over YATI's*
*- YATI = "Yet Another Trek Inconsistency" <--- And that term has been around in Star Trek fandom since the original 1966-69 series. The game (if you want to actually play) is: After you point it out, you come up with a rationalization to make it consistent.
Reads like banter between friends/co-workers to me. She knows Spock’s “style” hence the “illogical woman” line.
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*- YATI = "Yet Another Trek Inconsistency" <--- And that term has been around in Star Trek fandom since the original 1966-69 series. The game (if you want to actually play) is: After you point it out, you come up with a rationalization to make it consistent.
This sounds like the basis for a spectacular drinking game!
I’ll keep a liver on standby.This sounds like the basis for a spectacular drinking game!
No wonder so many Trekkies sound hammered when we argue. 
Broyce is one tru doc.No wonder so many Trekkies sound hammered when we argue.
In the quoted exchange between Uhura and Spock, it's just as likely that she is jibing him about his increased stoicism, compared to how he was when they served together under Captain Pike.
One of the things I am enjoying most about SNW is seeing a fresh perspective on familiar scenes from TOS.
One of the things I am enjoying most about SNW is seeing a fresh perspective on familiar scenes from TOS.
To me, that's distinction without a difference. We all first encounter characters different ways in different media, but by now we should all understand that they're going to keep being portrayed differently over the course of time, and depending on the production.
And even with characters who originated in prose, I suspect most modern audiences first encounter them on screen before delving into the books, but that doesn't mean they have to imprint on the very first actor they ever see play the character.
I mean, I would be lying if I claimed that I first encountered Dracula, Tarzan, Bond, or Sherlock Homes by reading the original books. As a kid, I first saw Bela Lugosi as Dracula long before I read Bram Stoker's novel in sixth grade. But that doesn't mean that I expect every subsequent Dracula to copy Lugosi. "That's not Dracula!"
Same with Kirk. I grew up on TOS reruns, but I don't expect Kirk to always be like William Shatner any more than I expect Batman to always mimic Adam West.
No actor owns a role forever. That's how acting works.
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As others have mentioned, the plot was just too familiar. I did like seeing the stairs and inside of the Enterprise nacelle, never before seen in TOS. Please, NO MORE KIRK! I'm sick of him already, probably because of the poor casting. I would've tolerated him having a drink with La'an at the end instead of the others, but only for La'an's sake. Did we get to see the Farragut? I may have missed it. 6/10 for me.
Kirk: I'm facing a creature apparently called a Gorn (because he looks nothing like the Gorn I met while serving on the Farragut)
