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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x05 - "Charades"

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Finally managed to watch this episode. I... don't really know what to think of it.

I didn't like the premises of the plot, neither the "going human" part, nor the engagement dinner game. The inter dimensional beings looked cool, but that whole plot was way underdeveloped.

However I absolutely love to watch these actors play their characters, and the whole look & feel of the show.

So... yeah?
 
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One side note for me:
This show is definitely veering off from "prequel" territory in "full on reboot". It's not so much about specific canon details - more in how the characters are portrayed & defined.

However I don't really care too much, as the show is very entertaining.

I do wonder though where they could possibly still go with the Chapel-Spock-T'Pring love triangle, I don't see a satisfactory resolution to that.

I wish Discovery would have been this good with it's ensemble, so that we could have seen these character dramas with a new crew. Due to the prequel nature of the show, the characters feel strangely boxed in, and it feels the writers are already reaching the absolute limits & beyond of what they can do with them.
 
One side note for me:
This show is definitely veering off from "prequel" territory in "full on reboot". It's not so much about specific canon details - more in how the characters are portrayed & defined.
pretty much, and they even acknowledge it a couple of episodes ago, saying that the timeline has changed. All considered it’s a wonder that it took them six years: after all casual fans couldn’t care less and core fans either didn’t care either or were annoyed by all the posturing that it was all a single timeline and so on.
 
pretty much, and they even acknowledge it a couple of episodes ago, saying that the timeline has changed. All considered it’s a wonder that it took them six years: after all casual fans couldn’t care less and core fans either didn’t care either or were annoyed by all the posturing that it was all a single timeline and so on.
Actually, according to La'An and Future Lady the timeline has been restored. :p

There's only one timeline. Oh, and those movies.
 
Maybe since it's been so long since we've had live-action episodic Trek people still don't get that the show does a little bit of everything? Each episode is different and not really "building" to anything. So a fun, romcom, one isn't really a waste as they weren't automatically doing anything else with it anyway.

And it was a great character study. Also I like the Vulcans, so I like it that we get to see more of their culture. I guess "world building" is still the term, even if it's multiple worlds in the Federation. I like seeing how "real" the cultures are in Trek. They all have histories and traditions.

10 tense space battle standoffs a year would be too much, not to mention a budget drain. Even the new shows need to save money and do what is essentially a bottle episode every now and then. It was all on the ship, the shuttle, and the big virtual-reality room for the alien encounter.

Also it's creepy that some people here can't stand even one episode being dominated by female characters. 1 out the 15 or so that have aired so far. 1 out of the hundreds of Trek episodes that have aired since the 60w. That's it, just 1 and it's already 1 too many for you? Tell me you hate women without telling me.
Actually don't bother telling me cause I've blocked them. LOL

Nearly every Trek series has been male dominated. Is it that bad we're getting female driven ones now? And boy do people like to throw around that w-word a lot. Bring me more Trek like the stuff we got this past week it's what I enjoy.
 
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Finally managed to watch this episode. I... don't really know what to think of it.

I didn't like the premises of the plot, neither the "going human" part, nor the engagement dinner game. The inter dimensional beings looked cool, but that whole plot was way underdeveloped.

However I absolute like to watch these actors play their characters, and the whole look & feel of the show.

So... yeah?

It's very possible to dislike or disagree with the premise of a film or episode yet to find the execution of that premise to be excellent. I didn't really agree with the premise of PIC S3 ("Let's get the band back together"), but I thought it was very well-executed.

Hell yes it's immoral! Get engaged, then go bang someone else, and then quiz your fiance on their opinion...

That is a human conception of monogamous morality -- and more specifically, a Western one. Vulcans could have very different ideas about what one's moral obligations are to one's partner when a couple are "on a break."
 
You know, hearing about how some people apparently were in the 90s talking about Avery Brooks being cast for DS9 and Tim Russ for VGR... makes me glad the first time I ever went online was 1999, and even more glad I never really started becoming part of the ST fandom until 2006 when I went to my first DragonCon.

I mean, 'agenda' in casting Brooks? Really? Only agenda I ever saw was casting a good actor who gave us a family man who was a leader. A damned fine example of fatherhood and leadership, by the way.

If I did actually encounter these people in the 90s, I would likely have never interacted with fans of the franchise.
 
You know, hearing about how some people apparently were in the 90s talking about Avery Brooks being cast for DS9 and Tim Russ for VGR... makes me glad the first time I ever went online was 1999, and even more glad I never really started becoming part of the ST fandom until 2006 when I went to my first DragonCon.

I mean, 'agenda' in casting Brooks? Really? Only agenda I ever saw was casting a good actor who gave us a family man who was a leader. A damned fine example of fatherhood and leadership, by the way.

If I did actually encounter these people in the 90s, I would likely have never interacted with fans of the franchise.

Yeah. It was not a good time at all.
 
Had the TrekBBS existed in 1993 there'd likely have been posters talking about "the agenda" of casting Avery Brooks as Benjamin Sisko. The more things change the more they seep some shame.

I found a usenet post a while back of someone claiming Avery was an agenda or to PC or some dumb nonsense as that.
 
it’s been restored to the one she knew of, with the eugenics wars in the 21st century, not to the one where they happen in the 1990s.

No difference.

BTW, there's never been a Trek episode where the Eugenics Wars happened in the 20th century.

There was an episode where centuries later someone said that the Eugenics Wars had taken place in the 1990s. Hard to tell what century it was when Spock said that - could have been anywhere in the range of seven hundred years in which the first season of Star Trek took place. That's based upon things said by characters in the episodes.
 
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You know, hearing about how some people apparently were in the 90s talking about Avery Brooks being cast for DS9 and Tim Russ for VGR... makes me glad the first time I ever went online was 1999, and even more glad I never really started becoming part of the ST fandom until 2006 when I went to my first DragonCon.

I mean, 'agenda' in casting Brooks? Really? Only agenda I ever saw was casting a good actor who gave us a family man who was a leader. A damned fine example of fatherhood and leadership, by the way.

If I did actually encounter these people in the 90s, I would likely have never interacted with fans of the franchise.
I just don't get it. My parents raised me to treat everyone the same, which was a challenge as my mom's dad was raised in the south and struggled at times with some racist ideas. Somehow, though, I managed to grow up with more conservative parents and still see no issue with treating people based on their performance, not some political correctness nonsense.

I blame Mr. Rogers.
 
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