Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x05 - "Charades"

[Captain Jollydark]

A step up from Discovery in every way to be sure.

Oh FFS! Why do people feel such a need to disparage Discovery in order to praise SNW?

 

[Captain Jollydark]

What I do feel is that in Charades the behaviour was pushed to extremes which I saw as being unrealistic.

That's kind of how comedy works.

 

[fireproof78]

Oh FFS! Why do people feel such a need to disparage Discovery in order to praise SNW?

Because...because...how else will we know how great it is? I mean, come on, how often have we heard "This film is the best since TWOK!" It's just how we measure success. Not by how well we entertain but how much better we are from than other installments! That's just logic*


*limited logic, but logic none the less.

 

[cooleddie74]

Man, nobody tell them how farce works.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Man, nobody tell them how farce works.

Star Trek is serious business.

 

[Greg Cox]

I don't care about canon relating to events in TOS, as I've never really been a fan of Trek pre TNG, .

That may explain why you have different expectations regarding Vulcans. Those of us who grew up on TOS and first encountered Vulcan society via "Amok Time" got a very different first impression of Vulcans. We have no illusions about just how biased against humans they can be.

 

[fireproof78]

Man, nobody tell them how farce works.

Star Trek is serious business.

 

[Captain Jollydark]

https://twitter.com/gaghyogi49/status/1681710499317022743
There's a device in Sickbay that's very similar to a device in TOS Sickbay

AAHHH! That's so cool!

 

[cooleddie74]

Trek needs a Basil Fawlty type just to annoy certain elements of the fanbase.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Trek needs a Basil Fawlty type just to annoy certain elements of the fanbase.

“Klingons “
“Don’t mention the war.”

 

[cooleddie74]

"Here...I'll do the funny way of urinating!"

 

[NCC-73515]

https://twitter.com/gaghyogi49/status/1681710499317022743
There's a device in Sickbay that's very similar to a device in TOS Sickbay

And it has TOS jelly buttons

Why mess with what works? I can't see how adding technology would make them work better.

Crusher even used one in NEM, IIRC

 

[Unique]

To me, the outbursts were a sign the he relied heavily on Vulcan genetics for his emotional control, and when that was removed, his brain couldn’t compensate right away. Kind of like a right-handed person who has to learn to write with their left hand—they already know how to write but their brain doesn’t yet have the fine motor control over their left hand that is needed. Spock didn’t lose the knowledge of his Vulcan training, he just needed time and practice for his altered brain to re-learn how to apply it.

His time as a human was only around two days, but towards the end he had already started to regain some control over his emotions, e.g. he kept his cool under T’Pril’s criticism and waited till he left the room to let out his anger.

I love the left hand/right hand analogy.

And the way Spock’s eyes looked like they were about to bug out of his head as T’pril kept talking and talking….perfection.

 

[Unique]

Oh FFS! Why do people feel such a need to disparage Discovery in order to praise SNW?

Well, SNW is a spin-off of Discovery and it’s been much more favorably received than DSC, so it’s kinda natural to draw a comparison.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Well, SNW is a spin-off of Discovery and it’s been much more favorably received than DSC, so it’s kinda natural to draw a comparison.

No, it's based on a failed pilot from the 1960s.

 

[cooleddie74]

Too cerebral or something.

 

[fireproof78]

Each show should stand or fall on its own.

 

[Commander Troi]

Depends on the practitioner. Especially with research out there showing talk therapy is as efficacious as medications and talk therapy and more effective than medications alone.

Yeah, I spent decades thinking I just needs the meds. It wasn't until I added therapy that I really started seeing improvements.

Is OCD over messiness a general Vulcan trait that they suppress, or a specific personality trait of Spock?

I wondered that myself. I think it might be specific to Spock in this case.

 

[Unique]

No, it's based on a failed pilot from the 1960s.

I didn’t know I had to spell it all the way out; we’re all Trek fans here who know the backstory.
Anson Mount’s Pike was a popular character on DSC and they gave him his own show based around the character first portrayed in a low-budget pilot 42 years earlier. The two shows are contemporaries and they share actors. There wouldn’t be a SNW if that actor hadn’t been a hit in that role on DSC. Ergo, SNW can be considered a spin-off of DSC and people are inevitably going to compare the two current live action Trek shows. I watched DSC for the first time this past week just to see what all those comparisons were about. For that matter, I watched Orville for the first time last month solely because I kept seeing people compare it to Star Trek. People compare stuff. Sometimes that draws new viewers.

Each show should stand or fall on its own.

One would hope; I certainly don’t want SNW cancelled because some other Trek show failed to make corporate enough money. I haven’t enjoyed any new Trek this much since the 90’s. It’s a real treat.

And now, I’m taking my headache and going home before anyone else parses my meaning and I feel compelled to answer. <eye twitch>

 

[Noname Given]

T'Pring here is only a fraction as scheming and conniving a bride-to-be as she will be in TOS. By 2267 she's full-blown Machiavellian.

Obviously she takes after her mother.