Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x10 - "A Quality of Mercy"
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Yeah the space battle portion was a bit of a let down. There were a ton of missed phaser shots at close range.
But a key point from "Balance of Terror" seemed to have been overlooked by Kirk and Pike and that was the firing of the plasma torpedo. In "Balance of Terror" Kirk had the Enterprise warp in reverse in an attempt to avoid getting hit by the torpedo. We know in SNW's version the plasma torpedo can be dodged by warping away. So a missed opportunity.
I think so. I have vague memories of that at least. It was something that hadn't really been shown before. So, it was new. And you know how people often react to new things. But it was all based on physics, and I loved it too!
Go back in time, kill pike with a bat’leth.
they’ve had this nickname for a long time.
More a reference to how heavy the jacket was, being made out of wool.
But, yeah, I've heard since going to conventions in 2001.
I'll be honest, that sounds like an awesome show to watch. Time traveling Klingons that just appear and assassinate people with a special bat'leth
Good episode. Lots of Christ/Christian themes surrounding Pike throughout all of this - fully knowing one's destiny, still ultimately embracing that destiny for the good of others even at great personal cost, taking on the possible fates of others (such as Spock in this episode) in a redemptive way. Hopefully it won't be a long wait for season 2!
Seems like Kirk is better at thinking on his feet and figuring out how to avoid getting hit by a surprise attack then Pike.
As stated above Kirk is more emotionally adaptive to unfolding crises than Pike seems to be. Kirk prefers the diplomatic approach but is more than willing to go the "hit them and give them a bloody nose" strategy if it means his ship and crew and the wider Federation come out intact.
Given Pike's history that is not surprising.
Also, Jeffery Hunter once played Christ. Coincidence?
Yup, properly demonstrated in this ep.
What I'm more surprised about is why we don't see the Plasma Cannon Ball launcher more often in the future.
Was the close-range weakness too much to over-come or adapt to?
Or did the existence of the Plasma Torpedo largely negate the value of the Plasma Cannon Ball in the future?
You loved it, I loved it, others loved it, the show lasted five seasons and got spinoffs.
And then we got The Expanse for six seasons. I'd say there's a ready SF audience for shows with accurate science!
As opposed to an SF audience who is like "FUCK SCIENCE! Do a barrel roll, bitch!"?You loved it, I loved it, others loved it, the show lasted five seasons and got spinoffs.
And then we got The Expanse for six seasons. I'd say there's a ready SF audience for shows with accurate science!
I love accuracy in science fiction. Have for a long time. I just don't expect it in my Star Trek or Star Wars.
STO has this weapon you can put on Romulan ships, its slow and unwieldy but when it hit it really hits
The weapon was gone by the Neutral Zone incident of 2268("The Enterprise Incident") so it seems the Star Empire has ditched the plasma weapon because of range and effectiveness issues and how much power the weapon consumes just to fire. By the time the Romulans and Klingons form their brief alliance they seem to have switched to purely disruptor and torpedo weapons to fight Starfleet vessels.
A century of isolation gave them time to develop a powerful new weapon but all the good it did them. They made it so powerful even their own ships couldn't manage it.
Well, the Romulans do disappear for another hundred years and by then even though phasers and photon torpedoes and shields have the same names they are many orders of a magnitude more powerful. Probably just aged out of usefulness.
I don't expect it in Star Wars, which never pretended to be science fiction. I was disappointed when Trek stopped being a science fiction show.
Doesn't mean I didn't enjoy it, but it was disappointing. But I get it. Science fiction is hard.
I never expected it from Star Trek either. ESP pretty much sold that to me as "eh...soft science."
So, yeah, I won't pretend Star Trek is any harder than Star Wars. It just faked it well.
I've given serious thought to a Pike post-2267 concept, and there's a half-dozen ways, easily, to approach it, even get him off Talos IV. Living out a life of illusion doesn't have to be the end of his story.
ESP was very ingrained in SF of the time. And it wasn't all Campbell's fault.
Star Wars derived from Flash Gordon serials. Trek came from contemporary and earlier litSF, a connection I've literally spent the last ten years chronicling.
We'll have to agree to disagree. It's a hill I'll die on, but I don't need to clutter up this thread with it.
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