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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x10 - "A Quality of Mercy"

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Now that Pike knows another outcome future. He can either except his fate, which seem he is. Or, he could bring James Kirk in as First Officer, base on that he knows the type of officer he is, and prevent both events from happening.
Also, by the sound of his voice, we know a certain Scottish engineering is coming onboard.
I wonder if They had Chris Doohan doing the voice.
He sounds a lot like his father.
 
Her family fought in the Romulan wars and she hates all Romulans and blocked Spock on social media once she found out Vulcans were related to Romulans. :eek: She later marries Stiles due to their similarities. :guffaw:

Yeah thats the only down about the episode is Ortegas hate of the Romulans.. No backstory like Styles of family history. Seemed counter to her spunkyness of the season.
 
That's what's being rewarded.

Not by me. Like I said, I dropped my account after DSC season 2, and I only checked out SNW because I'd already signed up because I was curious about the Halo adaptation. I'll probably watch PRO before my current month expires, but even that has less to do with the good buzz than that I know one of the animators.

Of course, as I never tire of pointing out, the economics of streaming make the entire thing moot. P+ doesn't need to get as many people watching Star Trek as watched "Emissary" or "All Good Things" to make it worth their while to stay the course. Hell, they may not need as many people as watched "These Are the Voyages." It's certainly possible they've turned off more fans, potential fans, and casual viewers with their nostalgia-driven, slapdash, superficial approach. Still, it'd be nice if they at least tried to make a genuine enduring phenomenon of a show instead of 52 weeks of extruded Star Trek-flavored capital-c Content.

Going to add TAS Yesteryear contradicts this episode. Spock died at 7 years old then and there was no war with the Romulans. Everything was just fine.

To be fair, future-Pike wasn't talking about that war, specifically, just the ultimate reunification between Vulcan and Romulus. Well, Vulcans and Romulans.
 
Whenever I watch late at night (when the episode drops) I'm usually disappointed.

I didn't know how to react to this literal BoT. I felt kind of... cheated? And Wesley's Kirk seemed to lack charisma, that spark that underlies even the most serious moments in TOS. I know Shatner is not the greatest actor, but there was something about him that brought energy to the character that felt lacking here. I believed Wesley's Kirk was a good captain, creative, wily, clever, but he didn't feel like James Kirk. Maybe that could also be attributed to the change in timelines if I squint.

I actually cringed in embarrassment at some of this. Obviously, I'll need to watch again.
 
To be fair, future-Pike wasn't talking about that war, specifically, just the ultimate reunification between Vulcan and Romulus. Well, Vulcans and Romulans.
No offense to Spock, but I think the destruction of the Romulan homeworld was what led the Romulans crawling back to the Vulcans, not Spock himself.
 
I think this episode ebds the debate on the look of tje ship and uniforms. The uniforns and the ship will not be any closer to TOS. What we see now is how things will look in kirks era. The original TOS era look has now officially been retconned.
(Looks at an episode of TOS--still looks the same as it did before).

I don't think the original TOS era look as been retconned at all--Viacom CBS is likely still licensing and making money off merchandise associated with it--but this could (possibly) help some people just accept that one show was made in 1966 and the other in 2022. They share a storyline continuity and some characters, but not the same production values.
 
To be fair, future-Pike wasn't talking about that war, specifically, just the ultimate reunification between Vulcan and Romulus. Well, Vulcans and Romulans.
There isn't much point in debating that particular poster.
They have seemingly as of yet, to find much of anything enjoyable in modern Trek and just about every post contains some kind of negative connotation toward it.
It must be really depressing to lead such a contrary life.
:shrug:
 
(Looks at an episode of TOS--still looks the same as it did before).

I don't think the original TOS era look as been retconned at all--Viacom CBS is likely still licensing and making money off merchandise associated with it--but this could (possibly) help some people just accept that one show was made in 1966 and the other in 2022. They share a storyline continuity and some characters, but not the same production values.
Commander Hansen's race was changed also, and in dialogue also as his last name is established as Al-Salah, a Middle Eastern name. But Hansen's appearance in TOS was so brief that I'm fine with it.

Seems strange he'd be commanding Outpost 4 months after his son died in TOS like nothing happened though, as it's established now.
 
No offense to Spock, but I think the destruction of the Romulan homeworld was what led the Romulans crawling back to the Vulcans, not Spock himself.
Spock laid the groundwork for unification and it’s possible that his apparent sacrifice trying to save Romulus is what finally united them. Discovery made it clear that Spock was key to it and he’s still highly regarded by them centuries after his death.
 
Seems strange he'd be commanding Outpost 4 months after his son died in TOS like nothing happened though, as it's established now.

Life goes on, especially when one is in the Service.
And by the time we see Commander Hanson in TOS, he's got just a bit more than the death of his son on his mind.
(like his own pending mortality and the complete destruction of his current command)
 
Pretty sure now the Romulan Commander from "The Enterprise Incident" would have been executed upon her return home for losing the cloaking device. I hope Spock found a way to prevent that.
 
I think this episode ebds the debate on the look of tje ship and uniforms. The uniforns and the ship will not be any closer to TOS. What we see now is how things will look in kirks era. The original TOS era look has now officially been retconned.
Hamlet is still Hamlet whether you film a blockbuster version or perform it in the park. What does it matter that the costumes and set look different if the same events occur?
 
Spock laid the groundwork for unification and it’s possible that his apparent sacrifice trying to save Romulus is what finally united them. Discovery made it clear that Spock was key to it and he’s still highly regarded by them centuries after his death.
Nero has entered the chat. :vulcan:
Which Spock caused by being late. :)
Nah Spock was going to turn their sun into a black hole so the Romulans were dead either way. :rommie:
 
It's still an alternate timeline. Pike just decided to skip the refit but Kirk didn't.

Anyone think the dating of the accident is a bit wonky? They made it 6 months before Balance of Terror, which itself is before Menagerie in production order? I know Mendez said there was "subspace chatter for months" but I assumed 2 months not over 6.

You assumed two months.
I assumed three to four months.
The writers assumed differently. Mendez never specified how many months.

Kind of like the question of the starship class of the USS Farragut. The Making of Star Trek and the sixties production team had it as one of the twelve starships of the class to which the Enterprise belongs. The Okuda encyclopedia reinforces that based on decades of that assertion, but the Farragut's it's actual class is never specified onscreen in "Obsession," so making it officially a ship of a different class doesn't really change really anything set in stone, similar to changing the destroyed Melbourne from "The Best of Both Worlds" from a Nebula class starship to an Excelsior-class ship in the Wolf-359 flashback in DS9's "Emissary."
 
Pretty sure now the Romulan Commander from "The Enterprise Incident" would have been executed upon her return home for losing the cloaking device. I hope Spock found a way to prevent that.
Depends if the same praetor is still in power. Romulan politics is notoriously unstable. Just look at Shinzon.
 
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