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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x09 - "All Those Who Wander"

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Yeah, which pretty much means "You got us, and we'd rather agree to pay you money if you agree not to say so."

Back at the time of the Buchwald v Paramount, a number of entertainment lawyers predicted that the studio would settle because all the chiefs out there understood that a judgment against the studio would change the way they did business, much to their financial detriment. Establish a precedent in law and the floodgates would be open.
Yes but a judgment against the studio, while certainly a possibility, wasn't a foregone conclusion. If it had gone to court it could've gone the other way. I haven't seen the Outer Limits episode but from the summary it seems to have very little in common with Terminator.
 
Yes but a judgment against the studio, while certainly a possibility, wasn't a foregone conclusion. If it had gone to court it could've gone the other way.
That clearly wasn't a bet the lawyers were willing to make.
 
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By the way, let's dispense with notions that the TOS Gorn is 'silly' or 'cheap' or whatever, and give credit where credit is due for Wah Chang's work on the design and the costume. Michael Westmore noted that the TOS Gorn captain "was a very advanced creation for his time." And it was meant to be slow and lumbering per the script; think how silly it would look for something like the classic Godzilla to dart around like a little lizard.
I actually had the privilege of seeing the original Gorn costume up close this past winter during a visit to LA. Very cool! And agreed, well designed!
 
Given how often TOS violated it's own canon during the actual first run - sorry, nothing so far rises to the point of a 'soft reboot'. Hell, the Bridge in Where No Man Has Gone Before looks very different from the Bridge in the previous two episodes (as do the costumes) as it was the third episode broadcast - and they didn't even do a Starbase visit that we know of.

IE - If it's ALL taken 'as aired' there's nothing in SNW as presented that can't be reconciled with TOS via any further 'mental gymnastics' that it takes to reconcile all the internal TOS inconsistencies; especially since the events of TOS start 5 - 6 years (in Universe) from 'now'. ;)
Totally agreed. TOS was inconsistent with itself. Visually and otherwise. SNW has been doing a great job of sticking fairly close to canon. It just doesn't match some people's head canon. But neither here nor there.
 
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This may not look like canon to some fans but it is and if this stuff isn't bothering me with my hardcore TOS tendencies then it shouldn't bother others like this.
I'm also a hardcore TOS fan. I was both excited/worried about SNW. Excited by its connection to TOS but also worried that they'd screw it up. Fortunately, it's been largely amazing! And it's consistent with TOS canon.

I think they've actually been brilliant with how they're sticking to canon. They're not doing it the boring way by copying everything in TOS and porting it to SNW. That would get old quickly, and they recognized that. Ah, there's Spock exactly as we saw him in TOS. Oh yeah, there's the same exact Gorn as before. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

Instead, they're filling in the gaps in interesting new ways. So, it's both consistent yet feels fresh.

We're seeing younger versions of characters we know who are at different stages in their lives. We're seeing the Gorn portrayed in interesting new ways. Etc. They're not violations. They're just unexpected and different. But you can connect the dots to see how change from SNW to TOS.

I think they've done a brilliant job to be honest. I've been impressed. They're making what could seem old feel new and interesting yet still consistent with TOS.
 
Nope. He didn't do his own work, either. Did you miss that part?

Goodness, half of Hollywood will be suing the other half!

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Good. :evil:

But seriously, there are cases without, but also cases with merit. This case might be easier if the girl was named Newt and the Gorn verbally described as a "xenomorphic organism," but if it were that cut and dry it wouldn't have ever gotten to a judge. I think there's merit here; you may not but that's why there's a formal process to figure that out. And if Paramount doesn't like it, they should expect more original work from their artists.

Hell, maybe Cameron can get [Control writer] David Mack, the estate of D.C. Fontana, and others in a class-action suit or whatever. Also it doesn't matter if it's Cameron and this property or someone else and another. The context of this theft is secondary to the question of whether it was or wasn't in fact a theft. Or do you suppose that was part of nuTrek's evil machiavellian genius – they knew Cameron would have a harder time proving his case given his history [muahahahahahahahaaaa]? (No need to answer; I'm not being serious.)

Anyway, I enjoyed the homage and, as I said, voted it a 10.
Glad you liked it. I look forward to the rewatch.
 
I might as well just say this now: I think anyone who thinks SNW will lead into "Where No Man Has Gone Before" as seen is lying to themselves.

We saw "Q & A", which takes place before "The Cage", and the Enterprise still had the DSC/SNW look. In SNW, things never looked like "The Cage" and it'll never look like "Where No Man Has Gone Before".
There's no way SNW is going to look like TOS by the time it ends. That's ridiculous. How it looks is so unimportant compared to everything else. When I talk about SNW remaining largely consistent with TOS canon, I'm talking about the more important aspects. Not the window dressing!
 
I mean, for pete's sake you don't kill one of the main characters so early in an episodic series unless the actor's leaving AND you don't plan on bringing them back at some point. Getting real angry here, despite the fact that I really enjoyed the episode.
But it was such a glorious death. Really, one of Trek's topnotch death scenes. Hemmer sacrificed himself to safe the others and he "fixed" Uhura, helping her become the Uhura we know and love from TOS. It really connected back to his connection with her in previous episodes. We know that from Uhura's point of view, she will never forget Hemmer and be forever grateful. Fantastic!
 
Unless it's reinstatement to full cast member it still looks like a demotion. The news that Hemmer was always intended to die doesn't make this whole situation appear any better. It's like the show wanted to showcase their diversity by seemingly having a main cast disabled actor, only to reveal they never intended to accomodate him for the long run.

If that's what you get from this, well....
The character Hemmer was ALWAYS GOING TO DIE in episode 9. Even before the part was cast. They didn't kill him off because of the actor's situation.They didn't know who was getting the part - just that he would die in episode 9.
 
If that's what you get from this, well....
The character Hemmer was ALWAYS GOING TO DIE in episode 9. Even before the part was cast. They didn't kill him off because of the actor's situation.They didn't know who was getting the part - just that he would die in episode 9.
My post outright addresses that. Only the disabled guy is considered for the short term part. He never had a shot with the mainstream roles. That still doesn't look good at all.

Are you disabled? Because I am. Do you know how hard it is to not even have a shot at what everyone else takes for granted?
 
While I am not happy they killed Hemmer, I would say he had the best death scene ever in Star Trek. May sound like blasphemy to TWOK super fans but that is my position.
 
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