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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x09 - "All Those Who Wander"

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No, like an android. Every Spock prior, Sarek, Saavik, Valeris, Soval, etc. They weren't robotic, doing everything by ceremony or a checklist. They were emotionally reserved, but they weren't this rat-tat-tat "move emotion to my heart" type being.

Well, that's just not true. Vulcans seem to have a chant for every occasion, including pain suppression, telepathy, etc. In fact, it was a nice change to see Spock and T'Pring forego that bit when they did their mind-switchero.
 
No, like an android. Every Spock prior, Sarek, Saavik, Valeris, Soval, etc. They weren't robotic, doing everything by ceremony or a checklist. They were emotionally reserved, but they weren't this rat-tat-tat "move emotion to my heart" type being. They just did it and reeled it in or failed to, but they didn't do this switch flipping checklist. Spock here is more like Data.
Robots don't engage in ceremony or tradition. It's the very fact that he did this that argues against your conclusion.

After all, do you have the same comment about "my mind to your mind..."? The Vulcans have shown themselves very ceremonial, even back in TOS.
 
Has anyone stopped to think that we might have been wrong about the agility of the TOS Gorn all these years?

Remember the violence when the Metrons pulled the Enterprise out of warp? What if the Gorn captain took a header and pulled a groin muscle or something. You ever pull a groin muscle? I have- you can barely freakin' walk. In fact, your walk sort of looks like the half-sideways Gorn-walk in Arena.

Kirk might have been making a false assumption, and was in fact far luckier than he ever realized. ;)
 
Has anyone stopped to think that we might have been wrong about the agility of the TOS Gorn all these years?

Remember the violence when the Metrons pulled the Enterprise out of warp? What if the Gorn captain took a header and pulled a groin muscle or something. You ever pull a groin muscle? I have- you can barely freakin' walk. In fact, your walk sort of looks like the half-sideways Gorn-walk in Arena.

Kirk might have been making a false assumption, and was in fact far luckier than he ever realized. ;)
Or the Metrons slowed the Gorn down to make the fight more competitive.
 
Robots don't engage in ceremony or tradition. It's the very fact that he did this that argues against your conclusion.

After all, do you have the same comment about "my mind to your mind..."? The Vulcans have shown themselves very ceremonial, even back in TOS.
In the first episode of this series Spock says something to the effect of "Vulcans are very formal" and T'Pring replies "Aren't we though?"
 
Seriously though, I think if the Gorn are thick and dense, and come from a higher gravity world, they should move like the Yautja do- the Predators. Not superfast, not superslow, but they would have to be cautious in lighter gravity or their own strength would impart too much inertia to their movements. And they would remain tough as nails.
 
My post outright addresses that. Only the disabled guy is considered for the short term part. He never had a shot with the mainstream roles. That still doesn't look good at all.

Are you disabled? Because I am. Do you know how hard it is to not even have a shot at what everyone else takes for granted?
This couldn't be a longer reach, even if your last name was "Richards".
 
It would've been nice to have had some acknowledgment that they were essentially killing children from a sentient, space faring civilization.
This is a chauvinistic statement. We humans have a reproduction strategy where we have a small number of children and put a lot of emotional energy and physical resources into thier care. The Gorn clearly use the other common reproductive strategy where they have a lot of children and put very little emotional energy or resources into any in particular. If the Gorn don't care about the individual hatchlings why should we?
 
We also don't impregnate other sapient species with our own young, knowing the hosts will die carrying them to term. BIG difference.
 
Before joining Gornfleet, the Gorn Captain had played pro football for a couple of years - until a tackle by a linebacker for the Denebian Devils wrecked his knees.
 
Bruce Horak may become the Jeffrey Combs of Star Trek--says he's returning to SNW presumably as some other character...

Well done episode, actually teared up just a smidge despite by all rights not having had enough time to become truly "invested" in any of the characters.
 
This show is a revealing look into how anti-Gorn propaganda works.

For over half a century we’ve been raised to believe that the Gorn were evil because they faked a message to lure Enterprise into a trap. Newly declassified files reveal that the Enterprise faked a Gorn message to trick one Gorn ship into destroying another, years before Cestus III. At Cestus III they were merely acting out of their sense that turnabout is fair play.

We’ve also constantly heard the familiar “They killed women and children!” refrain, while they classified that the Enterprise and Peregrine killed Gorn women and children first.
 
You mean Upjohn from the Short Trek? I'm OK with that. :adore:
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