Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x09 - "All Those Who Wander"
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Your argument doesn't convince me.
Because then Hollywood would only hire folks to be in-house writers and would make their contracts even more restrictive.
(which is how things use to be when Hollywood started out)
The Hollywood Writers Guild (Labor Union) is how folks avoid such a thing happening.
And the Guild is the one that argues with Production Companies about how Writers should be hired and compensated.
Been that way for quite some time now.
Trying to argue about how it should be different is just throwing chit at the wall and watching it slide down, for all it will accomplish.
(which is how things use to be when Hollywood started out)
The Hollywood Writers Guild (Labor Union) is how folks avoid such a thing happening.
And the Guild is the one that argues with Production Companies about how Writers should be hired and compensated.
Been that way for quite some time now.
Trying to argue about how it should be different is just throwing chit at the wall and watching it slide down, for all it will accomplish.
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Why not?
Do you think that the solution to "some people can abuse their freedom" is to remove freedom?
My position is that people should be able to enter contracts that are not, in and of themselves, abusive. Sci is arguing to remove that ability and instead force people to enter into contracts whereby royalties are a given, even if neither side wants that.
And my arguments against that are that A) you shouldn't force both parties into contracts they don't want and B) in a lot of situations it would be unworkable or too complicated to bother with. The former argument doesn't support abuse -- it's just that you have to find other ways to prevent abuse. The latter argument is in part supported by the fact that in order to make such a legal system work it'd have to apply to almost all work; otherwise you have to be able to argue why for some work it must be done, but not for others. Sci has not been able to distinguish computer programs from comic book characters, for instance, even though in the former case it would definitely be near impossible to work with.
What, specifically, do you disagree with?
Now you're getting into the smokey area of whether Guilds/Unions are good or bad.People should be free to decide if they want royalties or not
A completely different conversation.
Yeah... but if we did that every time a side conversation gets started, we'd multiply the number of threads on this forum by about 100.
I wasnt too impressed with this episode. It was ok I guess. It was pulling too many elements from Alien.
Wth is it with Kurtzman Trek to continue to kill off the best new characters?? I have a lot of issues with these shows but the characters I like seem to like continually get killed off.
Whatever....smh...
Wth is it with Kurtzman Trek to continue to kill off the best new characters?? I have a lot of issues with these shows but the characters I like seem to like continually get killed off.
Whatever....smh...
Yeah there's no doubt that it pulled quite a bit from it. But then so have a thousand other stories since '79 and even before, drawn from The Thing and such. It's become more of a genre than a copyright infringement, I think.
True. Some have worked for me and some have not. This one did not. I found myself losing interest pretty quickly.
they even appear on Lower Decks and are mentioned to be around in the 32nd century on discovery.
well, we saw one a couple of years later on enterprise, done on a TV budget…
That's the beauty of the world. Not every one likes every thing.
Okay, we can cross-post that over to Trek Tech, if it's not already done...?
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Because he doesn't want wealthy people to be required by law to give up more of their money.
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I'm sorry, but requiring royalty payments to the author of a Star Trek book if an episode uses an original character of that author's is not going to cause Hollywood to only hire "in-house writers." For one thing, Hollywood already isn't hiring media tie-in novelists for the most part!
The Writers Guide of America covers film and television productions. It does not cover media tie-in writers, who to the best of my knowledge have a professional association but no labor union of their own.
Characters should not be safe.
I dont see how that excuses killing off the best characters.
I have responded to your objections. You have retorted with ridiculous exaggerations of unrealistic potential negative consequences. I can only conclude you are not interested in a realistic discussion about the impact of requiring royalty payments to media tie-in creators for onscreen use of their characters and instead want to attack the very idea that workers deserve more than the most minimal possible compensation for their labor.