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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x09 - "All Those Who Wander"

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I would say the difference between TOS and SNW Gorn is more striking than any differences between Klingons. Even TOS and Discovery. It's just different since we've seen the Gorn far less.

Nothing compares to the Trill, though.

I would say they are different from what we saw on Enterprise too. The whole chest bursting thing threw me off.
 
I thought this was a solid episode. The Gorn becoming Xenomorphs is stupid, there is no way that thing could grow up to be the type of alien Kirk fought, much less build space ships (which we know Gorn have). They should have just either been normal adult gorn that attacked the ship, or a brand new species that had the xenomorph style. The little girl, aka Newt 2.0, was a bit annoying but didn't take up much time.

I wish Hemmer had lived, he's easily the best of the brand new crew members, but he went out decently. I honestly had to check that we had one more episode after this, because a lot of it felt like a season finale.

I voted 8/10, probably the best episode since Memento Mori (Episode 4), hopefully the season finishes this upswing by going out with a bang.
 
Disney: That other star franchise is bringing back 1960s lizardmen! Whatever shall we do? Dig our archives to find our own lizard to fight Baby Yoda!

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I liked that one a lot. Interesting that they're trimming the fat before the finale. I wonder if Uhura is going to be back next season, or if they're going to skip a season or two. I hope they have her back.
Also, I wonder if we'll see her grandma. For some reason I've got this little hope that they show her, and that she's played by Nichelle.
 
I would say the difference between TOS and SNW Gorn is more striking than any differences between Klingons. Even TOS and Discovery. It's just different since we've seen the Gorn far less.

Nothing compares to the Trill, though.
I mean, we have fewer data points, so yeah. But, honestly, again, an interstellar power not having some variation in member species strains suspension of disbelief to the breaking point. AND that's saying something in Trek.
 
What is the significance of the title though? I can't figure it out for some reason. Not all who wander... partial quote of "not all who wander are lost." Does it relate to the end of the episode with people leaving or...?
 
Reminded me a lot of the Alien movie. Liked it much better than the one from last week. Gonna rewatch this one.
 
Yeah, I don't know why she wouldn't have known unless it's something that she suppressed or literally never witnessed/figured out.

Some sloppy writing at the end where La'an decides to reveal what happens if the Gorn spit venom at you,

I'm sure she saw people getting slimed, but the space between that and symptoms is long enough that it's entirely plausible she didn't figure it out, she was just a kid after all. I think her line at the end was her putting 2 and 2 together once she realized what Hemmer was saying. That could have been made clearer.
 
How dense are you...The entire setting of Forbidden Planet IS Star Trek itself.

Hell - there's a line in FP - "De-C at 17:01 skipper..."

And tell me - what is the NCC number of the Enterprise again? Oh yeah, 1701.
1. Stop the personal attack.
2. inspiration, vague similarities, perhaps. are they the same, are you sure? is their ship a starfleet ship, are they part of the federation, why are their uniforms so different, etc. etc. (hint: they're not the same setting) :p
 
Another excellent episode. Bummer about Hemmer, one of my favorites.

Uhura is just not doing it for me.

Valden, you're obsessing with syncing the two shows. You're bound to be disappointed. Just let it go and enjoy the ride. I feel sorry for Chapel Her romance is doomed to failure and the fun and lively Christine turns a helluva lot more somber.

*sniffle* Hemmer.
 
I thought this was a solid episode. The Gorn becoming Xenomorphs is stupid, there is no way that thing could grow up to be the type of alien Kirk fought, much less build space ships (which we know Gorn have).

I guess only senior citizen Gorn actually stop all the hunting and killing long enough to do science, fly the ships, and stuff like that. Kirk was fighting the Gorn equivalent of a 90-year-old man.

I'm OK with that. I kind of like it when retcons make earlier eps funny.
 
He fought the Gorn captain, who would probably be the oldest one on the ship. What we saw here were just little kids :D
 
Yeah I know, right? Star Trek HAS NEVER been derivative at all in it's existence...:wtf:...oh, wait...:guffaw:

Please go watch the theatrical film Forbidden Planet (1956) - and get back to me on how 'original' Gene Roddenberry's Star Trek has been over the years.

Yes, this episode was essentially Aliens meets Predator in Star Trek, but it was still well done, entertaining, and had a great character moment.
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I'll take that over such 'original Star Trek concepts 'like say Brannon Braga's Voyager episode Threshold <--- Yep, that was a TRULY ORIGINAL Trek concept - "Going Warp 10 evolves humans into slimy salamanders..."

As long as the story is interesting and done well, who cares what they're cribbing from? Again, it's something Star Trek has done from DAY ONE of it's existence.

What a strangely abrasive post. I didn't say anything about Star Trek never having been derivative. I won't be watching your suggestions, nor getting back to you. I simply stated my view, which was that I would have preferred something less derivative. That's entirely different to suggesting Trek isn't or hasn't been derivative.
 
Skipping over continuity/canon issues since I’m an “alternate universer” when it comes to SNW. Although man, Jim Kirk doesn’t make it 5 minutes if he faces one of these Gorn on Cestus.

I liked the episode but hated that they killed off a unique character like Hemmer. And if even part of the reason they did it was just to set up Scotty joining the crew next week or in S2, then it sucks even more.

Sure, it was a bit too much like Alien or Aliens but I thought it was fine.They even telegraphed who was gonna die (save for Hemmer) just like the movies would have. Cadet that is staying, newly promoted Lieutenant, etc…

La’an kinda dropped the ball on the “don’t let the Gorn spit on you” thing.

I really wish they would drop the Spock/Chapel/T’Pring stuff. It’s so bad.

8/10 (damnit meant to hit 8 but hit 7, shit)
 
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Also, I wonder if we'll see her grandma. For some reason I've got this little hope that they show her, and that she's played by Nichelle.
Now that would be really sweet! I hope so! Although Nichelle is retired and not in the best of health, so I'm not sure if that's in the cards. But if they could get a cameo, that would be fantastic!
 
What is the significance of the title though? I can't figure it out for some reason. Not all who wander... partial quote of "not all who wander are lost." Does it relate to the end of the episode with people leaving or...?

I've been thinking about that. Other than someone involved in this show liking Tolkien (see Ortegas's sword last episode), I imagine it's that Uhura, La'an, Hemmer, and Spock all find their place in the midst of what seems like a bad, disorienting experience. Uhura is the most literal in that she's been drifting around but finds out she's where she belongs. But the others all have some moment of being in their place or answering their calling.
 
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I've been thinking about that. Other than someone involved in this show liking Tolkien (see Ortegas's sword last episode), I imagine it's that Uhura, La'an, Hemmer, and Spock all find their place in the midst of what seems like a bad, disorienting experience. Uhura is the most literal in that she's been drifting around but finds out she's where she belongs. But the others all have some moment of being in their place or answering their calling.

Yeah, this episode is very much about finding your place within a found family as a result of tragedy. For La'an, it means acting to care for Oriana as Una once cared for her; for Nyota, it means taking Hemmer's words to heart and not running away from Starfleet and the Enterprise crew. Arguably it also applies to Spock and Christine, who are starting to realize that they are a better match for each other than Spock and T'Pring.

Speaking of which -- That Scene. Jesus.
 
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