The way you write about people dissecting SNW was in a very negative light.
In contrast, I've told you that my interpretation is positive. As I said, it's just people discussing a show and having different opinions. Not negative at all.
Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x08 - "The Elysian Kingdom"
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In contrast, I've told you that my interpretation is positive. As I said, it's just people discussing a show and having different opinions. Not negative at all.
TNG: "Cryonics. It was a fad in the late 20th and early 21st centuries."
To paraphrase Dr. Beverly Crusher. Ralph Offenhouse and his people.
To paraphrase Dr. Beverly Crusher. Ralph Offenhouse and his people.
It depends on the purpose of the dissection.
Which is more my curiosity.
When it goes from "likes/dislikes" to "well, the writers really should have..." that's dissection. And it makes me curious.
The writer's approach can be part of the likes and dislikes. I think the "purpose" is really just people having different takes on it. People process it differently.
For example, I know the issues that trip me up with this episode don't trip up many others. That's why others like this one more than me. But for other episodes, it's the other way around. There's no right answer.
I think it's completely fair for someone who doesn't like an episode, for whatever reasons, to discuss them. This is a discussion board after all! That would seem to be the purpose.
You've missed the point and that's fine. Just different points of view, as you say.
Maybe you'd better clarify your point then?
But it does seems like we have differing views on this. Totally fine. Cheers!
It was in the reply you replied too. That liking/disliking is understandable discourse. Stating here's where the writers should have done is dissection. That's all.Maybe you'd better clarify your point then?
But it does seems like we have differing views on this. Totally fine. Cheers!
Oh, I got that. I disagree. I think having an opinion on the writer's approach is just fine. That's common in literary critique as well. But to each their own.
It's not opinion that I find odd. It's the play by play of what should happen.
Understandable...
So this is something raised when the short character trailers came out, he is of Nigerian decent, he was born in Nigeria, but the accent he has in the show is actually not his real accent. If you search his name in YouTube you’ll see his interviews for his martial arts stuff and with the Trek after show.
Exactly. For example, if I just watched TOS episode below for the first time, it would probably also take me multiple tries and I would rate it low. Doesn't mean I don't care for other episodes.
I try to give my honest opinion in the polls. I have a feeling there are others who rate all of them a 10 (or a 1) "just because."
Well I tried to watch this episode again and as per my first viewing I lost consciousness half way through, therefore I am still unable to finish my review of the second half of this episode. It is not so much that this episode is boring, it just feels like Star Trek is reading me a bedtime story and it successfully sends me to sleep.
I have a plan though so that I can thwart this unexpected effect that the episode is having on me.
I have watched the first half of episode 8 twice now, tomorrow I shall watch straight from where I left off… the second half of the episode. I shall also drink a can of Red Bull beforehand in order to attempt to fight off the unexpected effects that this adventure is having on me.
I have a plan though so that I can thwart this unexpected effect that the episode is having on me.
I have watched the first half of episode 8 twice now, tomorrow I shall watch straight from where I left off… the second half of the episode. I shall also drink a can of Red Bull beforehand in order to attempt to fight off the unexpected effects that this adventure is having on me.
Yeah, i noticed just listening to Babs on the Ready Room. Why the fake accent then? TOS M'Benga had an American accent, and it's confirmed in interviews that this is the same character
When this began, I thought: okay, they're doing "Shore Leave" or "Qpid". Then it seemed to devolve into TNG's "Masks", eventually arriving at "Imaginary Friend" with the conclusion of the mystery. So the level of my enthusiasm for this scenario went downhill as you can see. To my surprise, the ending then reminded me of "The Visitor", and while this couldn't possibly have been as emotionally charged as Sisko/Jake - if only for the fact that we have only known these characters for a handful of episodes - it was actually very touching. I thus came out of the episode liking it better than many others so far.
But I do have to say that I'm just not that into all the jokeyness which they do on SNW. Where Discovery is often enough SOOOO sincere and takes itself too seriously, this one.... I don't know. I'm all for lightheartedness, but it seems that there's always a wink and a nod to the audience that sometimes borders on the parodistic (low point so far: PIke's pirate talk moment last week). If everyone's the comic relief, then I fear this may become grating over time.
@Timofnine :
Funny you should say that, the exact same thing happened to me, although I did finish and perked up sometime around the halfway mark when the finally got to treat this as a sci-fi phenomenon.
But I do have to say that I'm just not that into all the jokeyness which they do on SNW. Where Discovery is often enough SOOOO sincere and takes itself too seriously, this one.... I don't know. I'm all for lightheartedness, but it seems that there's always a wink and a nod to the audience that sometimes borders on the parodistic (low point so far: PIke's pirate talk moment last week). If everyone's the comic relief, then I fear this may become grating over time.
@Timofnine :
Funny you should say that, the exact same thing happened to me, although I did finish and perked up sometime around the halfway mark when the finally got to treat this as a sci-fi phenomenon.
Yeah, that’s exactly why I brought it up initially, because it was a conscious decision to change it from TOS. I don’t know, I guess they know about how Nigeria has a pending explosion in population and decided to go with it. Maybe it was Babs himself that wanted to represent.
Maybe his *real* accent is the Nigerian accent but he has to put on a posh accent like Gillian Andersen does to get jobs in Hollywood?
Wrong. It was just evasive, and sad. Your responses aren't half as clever as you think they are.
You really need to stop treating everyone here like your intellectual inferior, and disagreements as people "missing then point".
You clearly cannot support your own claim or answer my simple question, which is why you're making such efforts to avoid doing it.
All I know is I have the damnedest time making out anything M'Benga says so I wish he'd drop that accent/affectation just so I wouldn't need subtitles.
I thought it was weird in this episode that there wasn't really any consideration if existing as a disembodied immortal consciousness or whatever would really be a good and positive life for his daughter. It seems to me like a lot could potentially go wrong with that.
I thought it was weird in this episode that there wasn't really any consideration if existing as a disembodied immortal consciousness or whatever would really be a good and positive life for his daughter. It seems to me like a lot could potentially go wrong with that.
I understood him fine? Maybe he starts talking with a deeper accent in the second half of the episode though which I have not seen yet.
I have no problem with accents in a TV show especially if there are subtitles. It’s just like when we get subtitles when Vulcan’s talk Vulcan etc, just in a more ‘earthly’ context with earth accents instead of imaginary languages.
