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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x07 - "The Serene Squall"

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Leaving aside any issues with the Kinsey report (and I understand that there were many), it does seem likely that a Vulcan, investigating human sexuality, would be more inclined to go to scholarly works on the subject rather than literary ones. (Masters and Johnson, perhaps?)
That's exactly why I liked that she chose literature. She seems to be trying really hard to embrace his humanity and he seems to want nothing to do with it. It's a PROBLEM :)
 
I haven't read Jammer's reviews which I may need to check out but something I've noticed that's a bit hard to describe is that sometimes this series almost feels like it's pre-fab construction. Like I've seen some complain about The Orville having some unnecessarily long establishing shots and so on where here it feels like the opposite here a sort of economy of scenes where there's just enough to do what's needed before moving on. This sounds like it should be a good thing and it probably is for the most part but without occasionally indulging it sometimes feels a bit static, like a collection of scenes than a cohesive flowing tale. Again, I know I'm not wording that well and I have been enjoying the show so I'm not trying to have a dig at it but trying to express it.

I think it would’ve gone right over my head if not mentioned in the marketing for this episode.

I have been doing an experiment and avoiding spoilers and trailers and everything for certain shows and movies that I know I'm going to watch at some point regardless (Doctor Strange, Thor, Kenobi and the like and SNW is one of them) and it is has been interesting. At first, I was just trying to be a little more surprised when I went in to watch but it has an unintended side effect of adjusting expectations going in. I did catch on before the end but I hadn't heard of the apparent hype going in and was surprised and thinking did I miss where they explained this as a lot of shows do hammer it in.
 
Leaving aside any issues with the Kinsey report (and I understand that there were many), it does seem likely that a Vulcan, investigating human sexuality, would be more inclined to go to scholarly works on the subject rather than literary ones. (Masters and Johnson, perhaps?)
If you wanted to understand English culture of the late 16th, early 17th century, and did not have a specialist-academic's knowledge of written material from the times would you use Shakespeare and Donne, or find some discredited medical tomes form the time dealing with plutonic ethers and where to apply leeches? It's telling either way that T'pring used old literature sources and apparently nothing current. It was probably a deliberate decision. It shows that she's trying, but she just doesn't get humanity. Humans and Vulcans see each other as curiosities and Spock is in the middle just trying to be Spock.
 
I don't know that I'd consider any episode we've seen yet to be a stinker. I've enjoyed all of them, and that's pretty rare for me for any show, much less a Trek show. I think they've done a good job getting this one out of spacedock- each episode has felt like Star Trek to me, regardless of the plot. That's really all I can ask, when you boil it down. It doesn't have to blow me out of my socks each week- it just needs to be fun enough to keep me coming back for more.

I wouldn't call any of them a "stinker" either but the Gorn episode was really good (though not quite on the level of what I consider to be some of Trek's top episodes) it's just that since then episodes have been trying to tie, surpass, or just come in second place to that one and they're just being okay. (IMHO) Whereas if you look at TNG and "Yesterday's Enterprise" (IMO the first episode of TNG episode to break through a ceiling) after which you get The Offspring, Sins if the Father, Allegiance all strong episodes and then Captain's holiday. A meh episode. These last couple SNW episodes have pretty much been Captain's Holidays.
 
yes chapel is a bit much, I think she should have just been a new character and this episode I am mixed on it.

Uusally

uhura never served with pike and she had no reaction to seeing pike in TOS when he had become paralysed. Uhura should not be on the crew, in cannon she served first under Jim Kirk.

Chapel joined the crew to search for her fiancé and her character here as many have said is so different, it is hard to reconcile both.
And yet, that doesn't mean she didn't have a non crew role before she officially joined. She didn't just fall in love with Spock two minutes after she unpacked.
 
Trust me. No man can fake kiss you and you react like a bomb hit you. I believe in the bar scene where Chapel ditches her boring date, Spock is in the background watching her. That's why she goes over.
 
I think that the point, though, is that serialized dramas are, inherently, more vulnerable to the "bad apple" effect.
Maybe? If a show doesn't grab me it being episodic isn't going to make me go "oh, well. Maybe next time. " I'm just out. Vs. Being able to find a plot line in serialized that grabs me and I watch.
 
Maybe? If a show doesn't grab me it being episodic isn't going to make me go "oh, well. Maybe next time. " I'm just out. Vs. Being able to find a plot line in serialized that grabs me and I watch.


Serialized has too much boring filler. I can't believe anyone loved watching Picard in his stupid chateau for half of the 2nd season. It's was so boring and helped to ruin the whole story. At least with episodic I'm only out an hour of my time with a bad ep and not 10 or 13.
 
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Serialized has too much boring filler. I can't believe anyone loved watching Picard in his stupid chsteau for half of the 2nd season. It's was so boring and helped to ruin the whole story. At least with episodic I'm only out an hour of my time with a bad ep and not 10 or 13.
I love Chateaus. Episodic will color my view going forward. Boring I can handle. Bad? Nope. I'll nope right out after a bad episode.
 
With this episode, we got 2 + 2 put together for us (the confirmation that Sybok was part of the V'tosh ka'tur movement). Since the phrase was used on Enterprise, people have speculated, but it is nice to have the onscreen, canon confirmation tying those elements together.

Strange New Worlds is the Star Trek series that brings back the forgotten and/or ignored siblings.
 
By the way Picard was bad. Really bad . Yeah.
Enough already. :rolleyes:
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I wouldn't call any of them a "stinker" either but the Gorn episode was really good (though not quite on the level of what I consider to be some of Trek's top episodes) it's just that since then episodes have been trying to tie, surpass, or just come in second place to that one and they're just being okay. (IMHO) Whereas if you look at TNG and "Yesterday's Enterprise" (IMO the first episode of TNG episode to break through a ceiling) after which you get The Offspring, Sins if the Father, Allegiance all strong episodes and then Captain's holiday. A meh episode. These last couple SNW episodes have pretty much been Captain's Holidays.

Fair enough, but remember it's all subjective to individual tastes. I must have been the only person on the board unimpressed with the Gorn episode on my first watch.
 
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