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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x05 - "Spock Amok"

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As far as we know, Sarke and Perrin had children of their own. See, it could go either way.


The Great Bird of the Galaxy had declared:
"Hold unto canon that which is on screen, either movie or tv. Except for TAS. All else is not."
TAS characters/situations only become canon when brought in in canon sources.
Pfft. TAS is APEX CANON!
 
Postcanonism is the way to go. Canon is irrelevant. Focus rather on if the stories, writing, and performances are good and enjoyable. Insisting on massive consistency with minor details over 11 series created over 55+ years is nearly impossible. No matter how hard you try, you're still gonna screw it up, and no-one cares that the broken Starfleet pendant Khan wears on Ceti Alpha V wasn't the design in use during the production of TOS, or that it's supposed to be the Romulans who patrol the Neutral Zone near Gamma Hydra and that it's the Romulans who don't take prisoners, as established in "The Deadly Years." The general public and massive Trek fans love TWOK, and no one crusades to have it declared no canonical and "not real Star Trek."
 
Postcanonism is the way to go. Canon is irrelevant. Focus rather on if the stories, writing, and performances are good and enjoyable. Insisting on massive consistency with minor details over 11 series created over 55+ years is nearly impossible. No matter how hard you try, you're still gonna screw it up, and no-one cares that the broken Starfleet pendant Khan wears on Ceti Alpha V wasn't the design in use during the production of TOS, or that it's supposed to be the Romulans who patrol the Neutral Zone near Gamma Hydra and that it's the Romulans who don't take prisoners, as established in "The Deadly Years." The general public and massive Trek fans love TWOK, and no one crusades to have it declared no canonical and "not real Star Trek."
Gene Roddenberry considered Star Trek 2 to be non-canon, at least until it became a hit.
 
Postcanonism is the way to go. Canon is irrelevant. Focus rather on if the stories, writing, and performances are good and enjoyable. Insisting on massive consistency with minor details over 11 series created over 55+ years is nearly impossible. No matter how hard you try, you're still gonna screw it up, and no-one cares that the broken Starfleet pendant Khan wears on Ceti Alpha V wasn't the design in use during the production of TOS, or that it's supposed to be the Romulans who patrol the Neutral Zone near Gamma Hydra and that it's the Romulans who don't take prisoners, as established in "The Deadly Years." The general public and massive Trek fans love TWOK, and no one crusades to have it declared no canonical and "not real Star Trek."
Absolutely true.

The thing got nitpicked pretty hard at the time. So did TNG. They succeeded sufficiently to become the standard-bearers that to a great degree defined the franchise going forward, for better or worse.

And that is why so much of both are being incorporated into the new version of the TOS era.
 
Regardless, it's understandable that things that maintain continuity tend to foster immersion, and so that this sort of thing is desired and its opposite detested.
This kind of thinking wasn't even a part of the Trek Fandom I grew up with.

We spent our time actually figuring out ways to make things jibe, rather than arguing about whether or not it was Canon.
It is ALL Canon as far as I'm concerned and there's always a way to make things fit if one tries hard enough.
 
This kind of thinking wasn't even a part of the Trek Fandom I grew up with.

We spent our time actually figuring out ways to make things jibe, rather than arguing about whether or not it was Canon.
It is ALL Canon as far as I'm concerned and there's always a way to make things fit if one tries hard enough.
Exactly. I thought part of the fun was the ability to explore within it, not be spoon fed how it fits together.
 
Yep. Back in the day our biggest worries were "did humans invent warp drive or did this guy from Alpha Centauri named Zefram Cochrane, and is he a human anyways who just lived there?" Or "how can you beam someone from a seated position into a standing one?"

If we could answer questions like that we could figure out anything.
 
Yep. Back in the day our biggest worries were "did humans invent warp drive or did this guy from Alpha Centauri named Zefram Cochrane, and is he a human anyways who just lived there?" Or "how can you beam someone from a seated position into a standing one?"

If we could answer questions like that we could figure out anything.
I'm surprised they haven't already retconned the "Zefram Cochrane of Alpha Centauri" thing to be Alpha Centauri Institute or some other fictional Earth-based organization. They could have done that in the script of First Contact itself.
 
ENT also had the chance but never did. They just left it to Paramount-approved reference materials and the fans to establish that Cochrane eventually relocated to the new human colony in the Alpha Centauri sector and stayed there for most of the rest of his life, returning to Earth for important events like the dedication ceremony of the Warp Five Complex in 2119, which just happened to be the year he boarded his private spacecraft and disappeared.
 
This would have been a perfect chance to say that this commencement ceremony speech was before he moved to the colony in the Alpha Centauri sector:

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This would have been a perfect chance to say that this commencement ceremony speech was before he moved to the colony in the Alpha Centauri sector:

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I really want T'Pol and Spock to meet.
 
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