Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x04 - "Memento Mori"

[captainmkb]

We see black collar nurses, too.

yes those would be the ones wearing their standard uniform instead of the work version (as McCoy also sometimes wore his regular uniform in sickbay)

more to the point, the theory is flawed because we know from Mudd's Passion she was a lieutenant while wearing that - she wasn't a civilian

 

[Captain Jollydark]

Chapel is not a civilian. She's a member of Starfleet just like the rest of them.

She's on loan from a Federation research institute or something? I'm sure one of you will go back and find the exact quote, but that's (paraphrasing) what the M'Benga said in the first episode. I kind of got the impression the showrunners were trying to wiggle around canon established about her joining StarFleet officially in order to seek out her fiance.I know y'all are really strident about shit but I honest-to-god don't care about the canon in this case, because Christine Chapel was woefully underwritten in TOS. And I'm just offering a potential explanation for behavior that some of you hate in her and I personally find delightful and refreshing.

 

[Tuskin38]

Maybe Chapel got interested in 'archaeological medicine' because of Korby.

 

[Belz...]

yes, this was one the very few things that I didn’t like: I found it too convenient and all in all unnecessary.

My issue wasn't that the brown dwarf was being swallowed by a black hole. Happens fairly regularily. My issue is that the process was JUST about to end when the Enterprise got there. We're probably talking about thousands, if not millions, of years, here. What are the odds?

 

[GNDN18]

I should say approximately 7,824.7 to 1.

 

[Belz...]

I should say approximately 7,824.7 to 1.

Wow, that's almost a certainty, then!

Or did you mean 1 in 7824.7?

 

[UssGlenn]

My issue wasn't that the brown dwarf was being swallowed by a black hole. Happens fairly regularily. My issue is that the process was JUST about to end when the Enterprise got there. We're probably talking about thousands, if not millions, of years, here. What are the odds?

I got the impression that the issue was the gas from the brown dwarf was being siphoned away, reducing it's size, and thus the amount of gas above the Enterprise. But it wasn't in any danger of actually crossing the event horizon any time soon. However, the speed that needs to happen in order to uncover the Enterprise was probably unrealistic. Did they ever say how deep they ended up, or what the pressure was? Maybe they were closer to the surface than we think. Professor Farnsworth told me that space ships are designed to operate at pressures between 0 and 1 atmospheres after all.

 

[Mudd]

It's silly to take issue with "science" in Trek because it's never been good.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

I've always taken issue with it in the past, I expect I'll carry on taking issue with it in the future. The series presents itself like the science is to be taken seriously and I can generally buy it when it's talking about made up stuff far beyond our level of understanding. When it gets basic stuff that even I know about wrong, it takes me right out of it. I'm not letting it off the hook for that.

 

[DEWLine]

Perhaps a trip to the "Orion ruins" is in order.

Given their currently-depicted patrol area, that might not be out of the question as season one ends and season two starts.

 

[Belz...]

It's silly to take issue with "science" in Trek because it's never been good.

Didn't you take issue with the technobabble? Isn't that squarely in the middle of the "science" in Trek?

Or does it only matter when you bring it up?

 

[Nerys Myk]

Didn't you take issue with the technobabble? Isn't that squarely in the middle of the "science" in Trek?

Or does it only matter when you bring it up?

I think technobabble usually involves one or more fictitious element, often resulting in a veriton burst from the main deflector.

 

[Tuskin38]

They do have science advisors now.

 

[cooleddie74]

If I want accurate science I'll watch PBS.

 

[Mudd]

I've always taken issue with it in the past, I expect I'll carry on taking issue with it in the future. The series presents itself like the science is to be taken seriously and I can generally buy it when it's talking about made up stuff far beyond our level of understanding. When it gets basic stuff that even I know about wrong, it takes me right out of it. I'm not letting it off the hook for that.

Knock yourself out. But it's not gonna change Star Trek into something that it's not.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

Star Trek's whole message is that things can get better if we listen to scientists and put the effort in to improve, so I'll carry on hoping.

 

[Jedman67]

In the realm of language barriers.

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I was born in 84 and I have no clue what she was saying. Of course I love VLDL

My issue wasn't that the brown dwarf was being swallowed by a black hole. Happens fairly regularily. My issue is that the process was JUST about to end when the Enterprise got there. We're probably talking about thousands, if not millions, of years, here. What are the odds?

I gave it a 9 instead of 10 for that

 

[Ssosmcin]

Fun episode. Good "Balance of Terror" style submarine stuff and as a Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea fanatic, I'm an easy mark for this sorta thing.

 

[cooleddie74]

If you quit watching Star Trek because something doesn't line up with a science textbook or what some teacher told you in school then you're doing this whole entertainment thing totally wrong.

 

[GNDN18]

Fun episode. Good "Balance of Terror" style submarine stuff and as a Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea fanatic, I'm an easy mark for this sorta thing.

Captain Bateson agrees.

I was half expecting Ortegas to quip “Five degrees down bubble: aye aye, sir.”