i don't like that i want it, but i do. nostalgia maybe?
Star Trek: Starships Model/Magazine Subscription
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Well, not in this case, since Fabio's Akira was done for the regular-sized model before the XL-line even existed, but I take your point.
What I don’t understand is why they’re doing an XL DS9. The Special Edition they put out a few years ago was a reasonably decent size. This seems unnecessarily redundant when we’re still waiting for a Regula I/Orbital Office station. Didn’t understand the need for an XL/standard Discoprise pairing either, especially since there was very little difference in size between them. They seem to be making some questionable decisions on these things now that they’re running out of ideas. Time to close out the line, I think.
Because they know hero ships and Federation ships sale. It’s a win win. Just because it seems repetitive to you doesn’t mean that they won’t generate more revenue from doing that then releasing a few random ships (no matter how many more random ships I would love to get).
i can recommend the B... it’s the only one of those three i have, but the long profile of the ship means it’s a less than satisfying model in the standard format. i like my B, it’s not my favorite model, but there’s nothing wrong with it.
I pre-ordered the Planet Killer Thursday from the US shop since I can get them quicker than waiting to get the specials through my regular subscription. Now Eaglemoss has sent me my shipment email yesterday saying it's on the way! That was quick!! 
I also received a customer service reply answering my query as to why I haven't gotten any subscription ships for over 2 months. Unfortunately, it's their standard reply of "we're out of stock" and will send when available but "don't know when."
They sure are quick with their online shop but not their loyal subscribers...
I also received a customer service reply answering my query as to why I haven't gotten any subscription ships for over 2 months. Unfortunately, it's their standard reply of "we're out of stock" and will send when available but "don't know when."
They sure are quick with their online shop but not their loyal subscribers...
Agreed. It's the profit off the popular hero ships (which everybody wants) that makes doing the "random ships" (where half of us go "why did they choose THAT?" while the rest of us go "YAYYYY!") economically feasible.
Well, sure, when there is a big enough difference between the standard model line vs the XL, that makes perfect sense. But in the case of the Discoprise, where there isn’t much difference between the standard Disco line of ships (which are already larger than average) and the XL line, it seems perfunctory.
So, too, does it seem to go for the upcoming DS9 XL, which has already gotten an oversized SE treatment. Such an upgrade doesn’t make as much business sense, particularly if they make it so big, as to be not cost-effective for people to buy.
So, too, does it seem to go for the upcoming DS9 XL, which has already gotten an oversized SE treatment. Such an upgrade doesn’t make as much business sense, particularly if they make it so big, as to be not cost-effective for people to buy.
Without knowing their typical profit margin on the XL line, versus the Regular line or the Discovery line, it leaves us the consumer in the dark.
But are are some basic assumptions about the line:
1. With the collector base dwindling, based on when they started the XL line I assume they figure that the diehard collector, versus the more casual collector is starting to be their primary buyers. This group will typical spend more on an item and prioritize their collection over more mundane expenses.
2. I assume that the profit margin is going to be higher on the XL line then either of the other two (in general, though obviously each model is going to vary). Part of this assumption is that all the models have development costs associated with them, this will be larger absent with he XL lines s they are working with the materials created for their original run.
3. They have sales data on each of the models that have been released, so they can make a very educated guess on which models will have demand for an XL release. Based on how they have stated hero ships and then general Federation ships sell, I think most of their choices make perfect sense.
4. They also can gauge interest based on social media, which I would assume also explains the fast release of both the XL and discovery version of the 1701. Reaction appeared to be largely in favor of the ship when it appeared at the end of the 1st season. So get it out in XL form first to get maximum dollars from general market and then release it for the Discovery subscribers shortly after as part of the regular line, so that you don't get many to opt out ahead of time for that release.
5. They would know the production cost and they would know what price point they need for what type of materials to use to maximize their revenue on each ship. DS9 for it's size has very little material usage compared to something like the D, so they can increase the general size and not overrun on its cost. It's why the ECS Enterprise is so much larger then the typical Special, but it doesn't actual use a ton of materials (why some ships have higher plastic to die cast in them).
It was hearing all the horror stories about getting ships directly from Eaglemoss that made me hesitant to order anything straight from them. Not being a subscriber and only going after the ships I really wanted, I preferred to order from other online stores that already had them in stock. But I went ahead and ordered both versions of the Enterprise-F from the US shop and crossed my fingers. I was surprised to get both within a week of placing my order, especially after reading here subscribers were missing earlier ships or had to wait months for them while newer ones were being released.I pre-ordered the Planet Killer Thursday from the US shop since I can get them quicker than waiting to get the specials through my regular subscription. Now Eaglemoss has sent me my shipment email yesterday saying it's on the way! That was quick!!
I also received a customer service reply answering my query as to why I haven't gotten any subscription ships for over 2 months. Unfortunately, it's their standard reply of "we're out of stock" and will send when available but "don't know when."
They sure are quick with their online shop but not their loyal subscribers...
Memory alpha has the Batris up as #158, and another Excelsior prototype as #159.
In the Facebook group and on eBay there’s a gent who sells water decals. They’re custom-made for Eaglemoss ships and include the missing decals for the Probert-C secondary hull.Yeah, when mine arrives, I’m going to send it on a date with my fine permanent marker...
Well... definitely not the worst rendition of a Klingon BoP.
I am really looking forward to the Scimitar. The class and it’s derivatives are cool ships to play in Star Trek Online.
But the visual cues of the classic BoP are definitely there. I was struck recently how much the Valdore looks like a descendant of the B’rel class - with the impulse engine at the rear, the “shoulders” on the wings, the central aft-pod, the long neck, etc.
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While eaglemoss is can be very hit and miss for subscribers, they don’t seem to have anywhere near the issues with their online shop.
The two worst things that have happened since I switched from subscribing to just ordering directly is that twice I’ve gotten the ship and no magazine (which both did come later) and once it took 3 weeks from when it was shipped to arrive (but the shipment was stuck literally in a winter storm that shut down both rail and road).
With subscription I have had fewer problems then some, but you at times pay for a ship not in stock that can take months (some even longer) to arrive, same issues with missing magazines, wrong ships delivered, waiting long times for subscriber extras, seeing the online store get access to models before subscribers, etc.
Of course my original subscription price per model was 3 dollars cheaper.
While eaglemoss is can be very hit and miss for subscribers, they don’t seem to have anywhere near the issues with their online shop.
The two worst things that have happened since I switched from subscribing to just ordering directly is that twice I’ve gotten the ship and no magazine (which both did come later) and once it took 3 weeks from when it was shipped to arrive (but the shipment was stuck literally in a winter storm that shut down both rail and road).
With subscription I have had fewer problems then some, but you at times pay for a ship not in stock that can take months (some even longer) to arrive, same issues with missing magazines, wrong ships delivered, waiting long times for subscriber extras, seeing the online store get access to models before subscribers, etc.
Of course my original subscription price per model was 3 dollars cheaper.
Thanks for the headsup! Useful to know, and great that there’s someone who has already solved the issue, via custom decals - Much appreciated!
Funny thing: During the movie, I was kinda' annoyed that all ships looked like BoPs (don't get me wrong - I LOVE the BoP-design! I just don't want to see it on every ship). So I never was a fan of the Valdore.
But then I bought the Eaglemoss model - yes I lack several hero ships, but do have the Valdore. (I wanted an antagonist ship for my Ent-E model) And it's great - as a model, it looks much less than a BoP, because the proportions are so different, and it looks much, much wider.
But I never, ever liked the Scimitar. Even now - the model looks better than in the movie. But I still think it was the dumbest of all the "big, black evil starships threatening to destroy Earth" in Star Trek movies - and First Contact is literally the only Star Trek movie where that ever worked. But in this movie, the Scimitar almost feels lika proto-J.J. Abrams-era badguy ship: Ridiculous overpowered in every regard (instead of "traditional" badguys that had advantages in one field), kind of game-breaking, and also just not a good design. That they always filmed it either from the clunky, square nose, or from angles where it looked exactly like a BoP didn't help, because I think the back of the ship (especially the engines) is actually a rather nice design.
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