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Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x05 – “Series Acclimation Mil”

Rate the episode...

  • 10 - Excellent!

    Votes: 45 27.3%
  • 9

    Votes: 41 24.8%
  • 8

    Votes: 25 15.2%
  • 7

    Votes: 22 13.3%
  • 6

    Votes: 7 4.2%
  • 5

    Votes: 5 3.0%
  • 4

    Votes: 3 1.8%
  • 3

    Votes: 5 3.0%
  • 2

    Votes: 2 1.2%
  • 1 - Terrible.

    Votes: 10 6.1%

  • Total voters
    165
Unfortunately they haven't done the best job at that IMO. I guess they are trying but I don't think the writing is top tier. Far from it....
I'm not looking for top tier. I do not regard Star Trek as the best written franchise out there so my expectations are for characters I enjoy.

Yes, the whole concept of Voyager was a fuckup.
Yes, it is awful and completely inconsistent with TOS and TNG.
 
Representation isn't a problem.
Representation is what Star Trek is all about. A black woman on the bridge during the Equal Rights movement? Representation. A Russian on the bridge in the middle of the Cold War? Representation. A Japanese man on the bridge only two decades after WW2? Representation. Even Pike's very awkward line that didn't age well in the slightest about not being comfortable with women on the bridge was supposed to be about female representation.

IDIC is about representation.

The technology, wardrobes and sets are absolutely irrelevant. How many times do we have to tap the sign with the Gene Roddenberry quote?
 
Representation is what Star Trek is all about. A black woman on the bridge during the Equal Rights movement? Representation. A Russian on the bridge in the middle of the Cold War? Representation. A Japanese man on the bridge only two decades after WW2? Representation. Even Pike's very awkward line that didn't age well in the slightest about not being comfortable with women on the bridge was supposed to be about female representation.

IDIC is about representation.

The technology, wardrobes and sets are absolutely irrelevant. How many times do we have to tap the sign with the Gene Roddenberry quote?

The sets, wardrobe anc technology are the issue. The new people running star trek had mo idea what they have done. They couldn't even give yhe enterprise the proper viewscreen on snw. Now on the 32nd century their "viewscreen window" is the same as the Enterprise one from 800 years ago. It ridiculous that the design team doesn't understand this.
 
The sets, wardrobe anc technology are the issue. The new people running star trek had mo idea what they have done. They couldn't even give yhe enterprise the proper viewscreen on snw. Now on the 32nd century their "viewscreen window" is the same as the Enterprise one from 800 years ago. It ridiculous that the design team doesn't understand this.
Sigh
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If a show is going to open itself up with something like this by saying 'we did our research, just look at our work', they should make sure it's as error free as possible.
I hate to break it to you, but stuff like this is extremely small beer as production errors in Star Trek go.

What's mainly regrettable about the mistake in the Sisko family tree is that it opens up the possibility of some nerds in a future show making an episode to "explain" the error. May the koala preserve us.
 
I hate to break it to you, but stuff like this is extremely small beer as production errors in Star Trek go.

What's mainly regrettable about the mistake in the Sisko family tree is that it opens up the possibility of some nerds in a future show making an episode to "explain" the error. May the koala preserve us.
I mean, deliberate obfuscation is the easiest answer.
 
Representation is what Star Trek is all about. A black woman on the bridge during the Equal Rights movement? Representation. A Russian on the bridge in the middle of the Cold War? Representation. A Japanese man on the bridge only two decades after WW2? Representation. Even Pike's very awkward line that didn't age well in the slightest about not being comfortable with women on the bridge was supposed to be about female representation.

IDIC is about representation.

The technology, wardrobes and sets are absolutely irrelevant. How many times do we have to tap the sign with the Gene Roddenberry quote?

Yeah. I mean, if you compare TOS to Forbidden Planet (which was a huge influence) one of the striking differences is the latter has a ship which has an entirely white and male crew, despite being made only a decade or so earlier.
 
People are going to be arguing in circles forever until they agree that the set design/technology/continuity etc. IS important and representation IS important.

They're both important, it's not a contest, you don't have to rank them, you don't have to throw one away to have the other. They are very crucially important, and if you say otherwise then you're just dismissing other people because your own opinion is all that matters to you.
 
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Is this you having a problem with the representation od a man wearing a skirt?
I believe we were talking about skirts vs skants vs dresses. But the statement I made is true I believe. Was there was a male klingon that wore a pleated skirt before? If so let me know. Not sure what your point is here.
 
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I believe we were talking about skirts vs skants vs dresses. But the statement I made is true I believe. Was there was a male klingon that wore a pleated skirt before? Ig so let me know. Not sure what your point is here.

In that you claim to have no problem with representation but appear to have a problem with the representation of a male Klingon wearing a dress.
 
What, functionally and anesthetically speaking, is the difference between a skirt, skant and a kilt? And who's to say that what Jay-Den was wearing wasn't a skant rather than a skirt, which we've seen male Starfleet officers wearing and Boimler championing the return of? Boimler would approve of Jay-Den wearing a skant. The way these goal posts keep moving, one really does have to wonder exactly what game is being played.
 
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