The effects are fine. I'm glad they're not chasing the dragon of always pixel perfect super-realistic VFX. TV looks like really good TV for once, and I'm satisfied by that.
Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x04 – “Vox in Excelso”
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they don't really get it
ENT's 2001-05 CGI was not only excellent for its time but shot for HDTVs that most viewers didn't yet have. There were times those effects got janky and cartoony, but were mostly outstanding for computer graphics created after the turn of this century and for a network show that languished in the cellar of the ratings.
Not at all.
Ok, so I mostly didn't like this episode but I wanted to say several positive things about it.
I really loved the relationship with the Klingon cadet and his brother. Nice to see a positive relationship like that.
And, I loved the twist explanation that Ake gave the Klingon cadet about why his father might have left. That seems to track with what we know about Klingons.
I really loved the relationship with the Klingon cadet and his brother. Nice to see a positive relationship like that.
And, I loved the twist explanation that Ake gave the Klingon cadet about why his father might have left. That seems to track with what we know about Klingons.
Klingons being actors in blackface was done right up until their last appearance in Enterprise in 2005. Indeed, one of the factors for why Disco redesigned them was to avoid the blackface problem. It's only been since SNW that they have been casting only black actors to play Klingons. And now, we're getting Klingons played by white actors who are allowed to keep their natural skin tones. Which the only other time we had that done with "traditional Klingons" in the franchise (outside of hybrids like K'Ehleyr or B'Elanna) was TUC.
Martok appeared to still be clearly caucasian as did a number of side Klingons in DS9 in Soldiers of the Empire. Same with Grilka and her attendant. B'Elanna's mother is light skinned too. K'mpec and Kahlest too and the clone of Kahless and the a couple of the monke. Some scenes in DS9 Gowron looks pale, not so much his first appearance in TNG.
I will grant I'm not overly familiar with modt actors' appearance outside of the make up so I could of course be wrong and the lighting on Klingon ships is pretty dark.
I will grant I'm not overly familiar with modt actors' appearance outside of the make up so I could of course be wrong and the lighting on Klingon ships is pretty dark.
Well into the first few minutes on my lunch break. Looks to be a stinkeroo so far. I can see these idiot writers are going to change the klingons and not for the better.
I get tired of the insulting of fictional characters because they don't have omniscience of the audience.
The battle was ceremonial. The Klingons clearly knew what was going on. It was all about saving face.
It treated them like a bunch of one-dimensional stereotypes and they fell for it.
The episode was apparently trying to make the opposite case, but the writers shot themselves in the foot.
Perhaps if they spent less time Master Debating, they'd have more time to write a strong story that doesn't contradict the point they're trying to make? Just an idea.
I get tired of characters acting like they're in high school or even middle school when they're supposed to be cadets in an elite institution.
I've seen 40 year olds act this way at times, even in professional settings. So, it doesn't fatigue me.
You really need a hobby outside of baseball season.
You have a higher tolerance than I.
Tolerating people seems like something we should strive for.
I'm very sorry you've not been able to find an echo chamber to validate your unfounded negativity here. There are likeminded communities of people not watching the show and talking about how bad they think it is but that isn't here, I know how frustrating it can be to not feel like you have a community to belong to, as an enjoyer of Picard season 2 I often feel like I don't have a 'people' too but trust me you do have places where your feelings will be welcomed with open arms.
To a point. But it can be overdone when accepting the unacceptable. For example, some juvenile behavior in 40 year old professionals is unacceptable. It depends on what it is.
But, I think it's fair to be annoyed by juvenile characters on a TV show.
I work with children and adults, and don't find juvenile characters annoying. I feel like trying to be more adult is a fool's errand:
Considering that there were zero casualties on both sides, meaning none of the Klingon ships inflicted any meaningful damage, I'm pretty sure everyone was in on it and no one was fooled. Unless you believe no one on those Klingon ships was capable of putting up a serious fight.
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