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Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x03 – “Vitus Reflux”

Rate the episode...

  • 10 - Excellent!

    Votes: 2 2.7%
  • 9

    Votes: 6 8.2%
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    Votes: 8 11.0%
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    Votes: 21 28.8%
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    Votes: 1 1.4%
  • 1 - Terrible.

    Votes: 3 4.1%

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The Vulcan on the War College team was pretty even keeled. The Romulan on the other hand...
He still talked about something being fun, though. I assume that’s just reflective of the much more diverse, fluid range of worldviews that exist on Ni’Var now, what with Vulcans, Romulans, mixes, and presumably people belonging to one of these streams but culturally or intellectually identifying with another, or simply being cosmopolitan.
 
I don't think Trek has ever glorified bullying; the bullies are almost always the antagonists. But, alas, bullies are among the challenges young people often encounter, and Star Trek has never pretended otherwise, going all the way back to the Original Series.

(See both "Shore Leave" and "Journey to Babel.")
Bully's are one of the challanges young people encounter when Adults are incompentent.

After their illegal transporter use Ake should have come down on the Military team like the wraith of god. Not encouraged her own cadets to take action that put the military cadets in serious danger.

And to preempt an argument, we saw that plant crushing people into walls, so that's absolutely what happened.
 
Good to know — and it certainly seems to bounce back whenever the adults are in the room.

Also, it took sixty years, but at long last, Gertrude/Beauregard is officially one-upped.

EDIT: You know… transport phasers would be pretty great weapons for actual warfare, assuming your goal isn’t specifically to kill the enemy. Set up a capture-prison facility, set your phasers’ transport buffers to delete all armaments from “casualties” mid-transport while sending them there…
Picard S3 was the first one to demonstrably use that feature in a crisis.

The best solution is to strip your targets completely naked and scan for any hidden weapons in the body and then beam them into a containment unit you set up some where that is reasonably well guarded.

Of course in Video Game's, the Metal Gear Franchise has variations of the "Capture Your Enemy" weapon such as the Fulton Balloon devices that raises the enemy to be recovered via a Sky Hook.
They've been doing that for far longer.

I've been reading this thread a lot today and trying to understand the perspective of those who like this episode, but I have to ask. When did we decide to tolorate bullying, especially in a Star Trek setting. Yeah there were shenanigans and college kids acting like college kids, but what struck me about this episode was just the mean-spiritedness of it all. From the teleporting the cadets who were barely clothed to even the chancellor being a part of it, the tone just seemed off. Maybe I'm just off base here but I thought we were in a time where there is no justification for bullying and this episode seemed to relish in it.
Maybe "The Burn" changed the wider Galactic Societies attitudes on it since the Galaxy became a much meaner place.
 
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Not very Trek. The worst of the 3. Nice focus on tbd arm muscles all the time…. It’s teeny bopper Glee in space only we’re stuck on Earth. Get out in the damned ship already.
 
I thought this ep was... fine, I guess? Definitely the weakest so far, and arguably the tropiest of the three, but with the premise I suppose you have to expect those tropes. I do quibble slightly at just how much latitude the cadets had to shenan, and you can certainly tell that Captain Ake's prior teaching experience was primarily with young children (as we saw on Bajor) and not young adults. But on the whole it was an okay episode; I'm glad they got the whole intense-college-rivalry bit done quickly so we can (hopefully) move on to more important aspects of Academy/32nd century life.
 
Its make or break, are the kids too dumb to figure it out?

There's two schools working out of one campus.

Which ever school gets the best test scores at the end of the year lives, and the other dies.

Considering how recently the Burn fucked off, it is highly likely that the Athena was built for the War College either very recently, or many years ago, and Starfleet Academy just stole it?

Oo.

What if the Athena is a shitty old hamndme down that the warcollege doesn't want, and their campus ship is twice as big, twice as fast and twice aws armed to the teeth?

Is there more than one campus ship?

Do they take turns parking on the campus,

Is there more than one campus, with a ship for every campus, and every ship is interchangeable with every campus?

Campus Class Star Ship?
 
I liked the first episode fairly well.

I was a bit bored by the second one.

This third one, I started to become actually annoyed. :crazy:


This worries me, but for now I choose to focus on "the only way is up!" ;)
 
Its make or break, are the kids too dumb to figure it out?

There's two schools working out of one campus.

Which ever school gets the best test scores at the end of the year lives, and the other dies.

Considering how recently the Burn fucked off, it is highly likely that the Athena was built for the War College either very recently, or many years ago, and Starfleet Academy just stole it?
There's actually a lot there.

First off "What would Kira do?" Is bullshit. She could almost always take or leave whatever was on offer. If she stood to lose something that she really, really wanted she'd be less defiant. She went along grudgingly with tons of crap.

In a way, Caleb is Kira. One of the episode's arcs is his learning that there is something he wants, at SFA, and that he'll need to commit and participate.

The fuss about "the existence of bullying" is terribly fastidious, given the kind of storytelling Trek was founded on.

I like this episode more this morning than I did last night. I'll watch it again this afternoon.
 
After I gave the first two episodes 7/10 each, I rate this with 5/10.

In this episode more than in the first two, I get the feeling I'm not really the target audience. I can't relate to the cadets. They just appear atrociously immature, none of them strikes me as interesting, so far. The entire competition thing including mutual bullying is nothing I enjoy watching, it just appears immature and petty to me. Maybe I'd enjoy it more if they showed insecure nerd youths rather than football bullies who hide their insecurity behind grandstanding, as protagonists.

Yet there were a couple of funny and likable elements in this episode. I.e. these flowers/mushrooms. And although the episode didn't strike me as particularly memorable, I at least wan't bored, either. Still curious where the show is going in the next weeks.
 
Aren't "insecure nerd kids" overrepresented in science fiction?

We do have SAM and, I guess, Jay-Den.

BTW, does anyone else think that the reason his baritone sounds forced is because the character is doing that, rather than that the actor is struggling with it?

The kidets are written as high school students for the most part, adolescents rather than young adults.
 
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Not as good as the first 2 episodes. Could have done better with the dueling "Captaincy" thing. Having both of them being humbled would have been better.

A better format would have been an Ocean's 11 type where we see what happens, then go back and explained how we got there. Like first scene show show war collage being infested by the plants. with our starfleet sitting there eating pop corn. fade out, then the rest.

Transporter phasers existed in TNG with.. The Gambit? (Picard on the pirate ship)

Military people are.. pranksters.. I see nothing wrong with pranking another class/school. it can be fun, and the Chancellor getting in on it is just fine, and I agree with her, Kids will be kids, AND for some this is the first time there allowed to be kids. The little romulan girl is a bit.. too Ahole ish but owell.

And what the F&%# is with all the swearing? This episode specifically seemed like every other word was Ahole or S&#@ Ugh..
Writing is weak sauce on this one.
 
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The Vulcan on the War College team was pretty even keeled. The Romulan on the other hand...
I mentioned that I liked her and one of my friends watching with me said "You always did like them crazy." Which I don't think is true of me! But here we are.

Anyway, we are still in "good but not yet great" territory for me, personally. Which is fine, I am enjoying it, that's all I really ask from TV ultimately. It's a lot funnier than I'm used to Trek being (cuz I haven't been following all the new stuff for a few years now). It feels a lot like the academy scenes in Star Trek '09, except I'm not having to remind myself "It's an alternate timeline, that's why he's not 'a stack of books with legs'" every few moments.

Ake remains my favorite character in this. Again I find myself really drawn to the fact that this show is dealing with the stuff that has frustrated me about modern Star Trek and is explicitly about doing better (her captain's/chancellor's "speech" at the end was really good for this, even if it's an ideal that doesn't quite square with the way she dealt with Braka in the first episode; she's only Lanthanite I suppose). I love that Reno found someone here at the end of time (and that that someone is a Klingon/Jem'Hadar drill sergeant so deliciously her opposite).

And apparently I love the crazy Romulan/Ni'Varian. Go figure. :shrug:
 
I guess a way to interpret the “prepared the replicator” line would be to assume it’s broken and Reno promised to fix it, although I guess Lura wouldn’t have used the word “prepared” then. Maybe the replicator is dirty and “preparing” means cleaning it? :lol:
 
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