I imagine future episodes (if any) will move further away from Trek, both in terms of visuals and concepts.
Star Trek: Renegades
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The uniforms still scream "STAR TREK" to me, despite being significantly different from any of the actual incarnations - the "influence" is quite obvious at a moments glance. That said, since it really is a trek fan film with the serial numbers filed off, I think CBS can look away since they are not actually trying to make money. They can tell the "it's not star trek!" is just a legal fiction.
Good luck guys!
Also some charater names are similar, the bridge looks Trekkish and all the returning actors are in pretty much the same roles. Barely anything's changed really
Personally, I think C/P would still look away had they kept it Star trek (although I'm certain after the C/P vs. Axanar court case is either adjudicated or settled, but I hope the former and Alec peters gets his proverbial ass handed to him by the Judge and Jury); you'll see BOTH Alec Peters and RMB effectively working for C/P 'enforcement as: Anytime they see a Star trek fan production that violates the Guidelines to the smallest degree, they'll scream at C/P (on any social media format, or interview they can get) to sue because of said guideline violation. And if/when C/P don't he'll trot out the:
Alec Peters: "See C/P only sued Axanar, and it was because we were TOO GOOD..AND THEY WERE AFRAID OF MY STAR TREK GREATNESS...I AM LORD GAR...err I mean, I'm Alec Peters..."
Still I do think out of spite Alec Peters and RMB will end up being "Guideline Police" for CBS/Paramount - all the while decrying said guidelines and promoting how great Axanar would have been...if only...
This was written as a sequel to a Star Trek story unlike films such as Nobility and 5th Passenger, all the same actors are technically in the exact same roles in all but name and prosthetic. Remember they had DAYS to make changes as the production was all geared up. The uniforms and bridge look Trek. Here's a synopsis:
The Dirty Dozen goes interstellar in this exciting new ongoing Sci Fi series about a group of rogues, rebels, and outcasts who find themselves faced with the greatest threat the Confederation has ever encountered. With a man known only as the Admiral (Walter Koenig) heading up Confederation Intelligence and Kovok (Tim Russ) a part of the Confederation's clandestine Black Ops organization, they recruit Captain Lexxa Singh (Adrienne Wilkinson) and her rogue crew to do those missions that no one else can or will do. When the Confederation is threatened and standard protocol won’t work, it is up to this rag-tag group of Renegades to save them all.
Renegades continues with the Requiem, as everything The Admiral has feared for the Confederation, begins to come to pass. As a secret cabal enacts plans for galactic dominance on a scale never before seen, The Admiral and his crack team of Renegades do everything in their power to stop them. But their enemy is more powerful than they can imagine and The Admiral is left with a decision he never wanted to make. But will the sacrifice be too great?
It's still Star Trek enough to me, I reckon it will take very little stretch of the imagination to think of it as Trek, what Chakotay/Jadzia/Nog/Tuvok/Jake/Chekov would have been doing etc.
I reckon any follow ups will start to distance.
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Well, with so little time, I get why they had to use a power sander instead of a nail file. 
Still, I wish them the best of luck. What I like is that now it's not a Star Trek film, I can judge it on the merits of a general sci-fi film, an area where I'm far more accommodating.
Still, I wish them the best of luck. What I like is that now it's not a Star Trek film, I can judge it on the merits of a general sci-fi film, an area where I'm far more accommodating.
I didn't realize they'd out a description like that. I'm completely aware that it's still basically going to be Star Trek, but I'm not going hold anything against them. Like Coloratura said, they had to do this in a hurry, so it's obviously going to be pretty close to the Trek story it started out as. It will be interesting to see what it becomes if they continue on from here.
Confederation. They could have tried a BIT harder on the names.
Something like Democratic Order of Planets — or DOOP.
To be fair, it could just as easily mean Terran ConfederacyConfederation. They could have tried a BIT harder on the names.
There are a couple easier solutions to this. At the risk of spoiling the second season finale of The Flash reveal already in my avatar. This is an alternate universe in which their dopplegangers have different names due different family histories.
Though given the premise of them being Renegades it might have been simplest to imply they all are using aliases. Not be to specific but suggest they are uncover after leaving their unnamed "previous employer".
In the first Expendables movie Sylvester Stallone wrote a single line of dialogue which left the possiblity that his character "Barney Ross" could really be a number of similar characters h played in early films. In the scene where he met Bruce Willis' character, Willis said " I doubt Banery Ross is your real name" Equally his CIA character says to call him "Church" because that is the site of their meeting, But obviously that is not his real name at all.
Though given the premise of them being Renegades it might have been simplest to imply they all are using aliases. Not be to specific but suggest they are uncover after leaving their unnamed "previous employer".
In the first Expendables movie Sylvester Stallone wrote a single line of dialogue which left the possiblity that his character "Barney Ross" could really be a number of similar characters h played in early films. In the scene where he met Bruce Willis' character, Willis said " I doubt Banery Ross is your real name" Equally his CIA character says to call him "Church" because that is the site of their meeting, But obviously that is not his real name at all.
When talking with Tim (Russ) on set he said 'It's not about what you say, it's about what you don't say'. Meaning Renegades is not going to have needless exposition explaining things. You would be surprised about how little we had change to remove Star Trek copyrights out of the script.
That's good, at least those who want to can still view it 'as if it were Star Trek'.
People were like 'that's it' when you annoucned you were removign Trek but it's in name only, filing off the serial number as people say.
Sounds like a win-win for all, nothing is lost and you know what? The changes add to the fun and oddity of it all. E.g. we can guess how Terry Farrell isn't dead
Have references to the characters' past been changed/removed?
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