Spoilers Star Trek: Prodigy General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Prodigy' started by The Overlord, Oct 20, 2019.

  1. Deks

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    The USS Protostar was probably LAUNCHED around 2373-2374... it wasn't FITTED with the Proto-Core/Warp or Janeway hologram until AFTER VOY returned from the D.Q.
    When VOY returned in 2378, Starfleet probably did some more research using data Voy also brought back... chose the USS Protostar as a testbed to use Proto-Core/Warp technology and re-launched it around 2381-2382... shortly after that (but before 2383) it encounters an anomaly and gets thrown over 20 years into the past.

    Just because it was launched shortly after VOY was launched, it doesn't mean it wasn't already doing experimental testing of some other technology (or maybe a precursor to Proto-Warp/Core) while VOY was in the D.Q... it was just outfitted with Janeway hologram after VOY returned, promoted Chakotay and gave him the ship as his command..
     
  2. Deks

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    Actually, the Protostar is not 'way more advanced' than the time period when VOY returned.
    They are pretty much the same.

    Just because it was launched shortly after VOY was lost, it doesn't mean it wasn't completely refitted/modified after VOY got back and was installed with the proto-core/warp and Janeway training hologram (which makes sense if the ship's mission was in the Delta Quadrant).

    The Protostar would have been 4 or 5 years old by the time VOY returned in 2378.
    It wouldn't be a stretch to think Starfleet decided to refit the Protostar entirely in the next year or 2 (by 2380) with the proto-core and Janeway hologram and re-launch it with Chakotay as its captain in 2381 or 2382.

    Again... not really, and its not too complicated to have the USS Protostar being originally built and launched in 2373, and then recalled for a refit in say 2380 so it can be outfitted with Proto-Warp/core and Janeway hologram.

    VOY was already in contact with SF in season 6 with the Pathfinder, and the ship transmitted all its logs when Barclay opened a micro wormhole to chat with the ship briefly.

    Starfleet had at least a year (before VOY returned home) to 'play' with what data Janeway and her crew accumulated to finish/perfect Proto-Warp/Core.
    The Janeway hologram was basically an addition roughly in 2380 (Janeway was promoted to Admiral in 2379).
    And she's one of the most decorated SF officers indeed because she brough VOY back in 7 years along with massive amounts of data on the Delta Quadrant and new technologies.

    Chakotay already had a partially grey hair by the time VOY returned to the Federation.
    Another 3 or 4 years could have easily gave him another streak, depending on what happened to him.

    Chakotay also mentioned an anomaly, and we know the ship was being searched for years BEFORE 2366... that suggests a temporal anomaly.
    The Proto-Core/Warp and holo Janeway were probably installed in the 3 years since VOY returned (from 2378 to 2381)... then launched with Chakotay to go to the Delta Quadrant or wherever its mission was and got thrown over 20 years into the past.

    That easily fits too.
    And it was mentioned by the show makers hat timeline would be 'wibbly-wobbly'.
     
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  3. Deks

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    And she was promoted to Admiral by 2379 (ST: Nemesis).
    Its safe to say that having holo Janeway being installed as a training advisor (along with the Proto-Core/Warp) on the USS Protostar by 2380 is not a big deal... the ship ends up lost with Chakotay by 2381 or 2382 (presumably encountering an anomaly which throws it about 20 years into the past) and a year later (2383), the kids find the ship and escape Tars Lamora.
     
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  4. Jinn

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    Going by registry numbers the Protostar goes between the second Defiant (from 2375) and the Titan (assuming Riker's its first Captain it'd be from 2379/2380). Then again I doubt the creators put that much specific thought into the registry number, so might not mean anything.
     
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    Starfleet registry numbers are all over the place in DSC and TOS and still somewhat inconsistent in the later series so I wouldn't put too much stock in a ship's launch year being in a particular number range.
     
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  6. Deks

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    USS VOY registry: NCC-74656
    USS Protostar registry: NX-76884

    There's a difference of 2 228 .

    Not a huge difference when you consider the fact how huge UFP is and that its more than capable enough to build 1000 ships per year (and the fact the Dominion War started in 2373 and lasted until 2375 would have meant SF would have accelerated ship construction and research).

    Caretaker episode stardate: 48315.6

    If that's the case, we could infer the Protostar was initially built in late 2373 or very early 2374 and chosen as a testbed for new technologies (which it was testing while VOY was in the DQ - aka during the Dominion War).
    Alternatively, the Protostar could have also been built and launched right after the Dominion War.
    Its possible most SF shipyards were occupied making replacement ships lost in the War... but, SF also built the USS Prometheus during the War... so its not outside the realm of possibility the Protostar could be built during that time.

    SF gets VOY logs, etc. in 2377, and is able to tinker with them which would allow them to finish and 'perfect' the Proto-Core at an accelerated time frame (Which was probably already in development). VOY returns in 2378.
    7 of 9 could have joined and assisted in finishing the Proto Core at this point (she would have been debriefed with most of VOY crew, so she may have been asked to render some assistance).

    Janeway is promoted to admiral by 2379 (Chakotay would likely be promoted to Captain at the same time or shortly after).
    2380 - USS Protostar is refitted with the complete Proto-Core/Warp and Janeway Training hologram.
    2381-2382 - USS Protostar is re-launched. Shortly in its journey, it encounters an anomaly and is thrown over 20 years into the past (around 2360-2363).
    2383 - the kids discover the Protostar and flee Tars Lamora.
    2366 (ish) - Gwyn is created (at this point the USS Protostar has been searched for years already).

    Unless of course I'm completely and utterly wrong. :D
     
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  7. dupersuper

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    What, other than the experimental engine, is more advanced than Voyager?
     
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  8. Deks

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    It doesn't look like it. Other than the experimental Proto-Core/Warp, its other specs seem pretty much standard like on VOY (the tactical display was showing us Photon Torpedo specs, and those are pretty standard - not even Tyep 6 warheads like the ones VOY used (although, those torpedoes could have been reclassified into a lower category and thus would have been used as standard on the Protostar for example).
     
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    This show has no business being this good.
     
  12. Markonian

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    My partner doesn't stand Lower Decks but enjoyed the Prodigy premiere when we watched it at DST London 2021.

    I used GamePrint to get a Emissary-class ship labelled USS Protostar, and my partner recognised it.
     
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  13. Danja

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    I've been seeing a LOT of that on Twitter.

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    I met a lady with four kids: 11, 9, 7, and 4.

    Her eldest three kids love Prodigy (her 4yo ... Not so much).

    I told her, "Three out of four children ain't bad!" :guffaw::guffaw::guffaw:
     
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  14. Cyrus

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    Subscribing to the cheap version of Paramount+, I am watching Prodigy with commercials. And I think every single ad has been about Paramount+ and Nickelodeon shows, except one that was for some Nickelodeon owned resort. Weird.

    It would be hard to believe that they couldn't find any buyers for the ad times. Since Nickelodeon presumably paid for the production of this series and will try to recoup by selling ads on their own network, maybe they decided to use the streaming version to promote their other kiddie shows.
     
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  15. The Old Mixer

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    I routinely get a Frosted Flakes ad.
     
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    Me too. Sometimes the same one repeated back-to-back. Ad naseum, ad infinitum. “Mighty Tigers”, indeed! :barf:
     
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    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

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  18. Turtletrekker

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    Thank God for the mute button.
     
  19. Deks

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    There is an alternative: It starts with a 'T'... and ends with 'ENT'.... t***ent. ! :D

    Honestly, I've been using ad block for as long as I can remember, I can't stand ads... and if I DO catch one, I ignore it.
    Streaming shows shouldn't have ads... we're already paying for access to the Internet and a whole bunch of other things, even though it was initially developed by the people (government/taxpayer funded).
     
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    I used to simply let all ads play, jumping from one to the next, ignoring that window and muting the sound. Once all of them had played, I could watch the whole episode and it would automatically skip the ads, cause it knew it had played them before.