Spoilers Star Trek: Prodigy General Discussion Thread

[Tim Thomason]

you should also look up what a clip show is. show me one scene in this one that was a flashback showing a scene from an earlier episode.

It's not a clip show. It's vaguely like a clip show, in that they use vocal clips to pad out the story. But, of course, only a very few, and it would be impossible to do a clip show in a brand-new medium for Star Trek.

Clip show does not equal bad. Some of my favorite episodes of all times have been clip shows. Clerks, Simpsons, Xena (Kurtzman's alma mater) have all used clip shows to tell refreshing, brand new stories in exciting, innovative ways. I look forward to that happening on Star Trek some day. ... But that's not what this is.

This is more akin to a bottle episode, in that the entire story is apparently contained on the ship while it's just floating in space, with no real action or guest stars. Except, of course, the archival guest stars (and Gates McFadden and a teaser for Robert Beltran) and the holodeck set being used for the Enterprise-D bridge and a Klingon bridge (and a couple other teasers). I have a feeling that lots of Prodigy will be like this. You'll have action-heavy episodes, and then breathers to collect oneself and maybe move the mystery forward.

 

[Tim Thomason]

And yet it was not unheard of to find Odo manning a bridge station on the Defiant, especially when there was a Changeling related story, such as in The Search and The Adversary. Likewise Garak manned a bridge station several times when the ship was doing something Cardassian related. Plus, the crews have had ex-Maquis, Klingon and other species exchange officers, T'Pol, and pre-Starfleet Wesley Crusher, so leaving an option to include non-Starfleet personnel on temporary assignment seems plausible.

I'm not sweating Odo acting as Flight Controller. He's there because Dal picked him even though he's a security chief and probably Dominion expert. The program is flying the ship and the program is following Dal's orders. The "crew" are just personalities meant to give the Captain advice and pad out the stations. He could just as well used Hollywood actors and had James Dean at conn and Audrey Hepburn at Ops and gotten the same experience through movie clips.

Scotty runs tactical, Uhura does ship operations, and Spock and Crusher are just sitting there. Spock presumably to step in as an XO and translate orders from Dal. It's not necessarily the characters' strong suit.

 

[NCC-73515]

Odo is the security chief, Scotty the engineer. They just reconfigured the stations like in Bridge Commander

 

[The Old Mixer]

Clip show does not equal bad. Some of my favorite episodes of all times have been clip shows. Clerks, Simpsons, Xena (Kurtzman's alma mater) have all used clip shows to tell refreshing, brand new stories in exciting, innovative ways.

The Incredible Hulk did some good clip shows...most notably "Mystery Man," the two-parter in which Jack McGee learned that "John Doe" transformed into the Hulk.

 

[cooleddie74]

Yeah, most of that two-parter was Bill Bixby wrapped in gauze bandages covering most of his face and dragging Jack McGee to safety after their plane crash. It was a most effective use of stock footage to build tension.

 

[The Old Mixer]

I was referring to the extensive use of flashbacks to previous episodes. AIR, McGee relates what he knows of the Hulk to Doe, and Doe/Banner has flashes of memories, all via clips from previous episodes. Going by vague memory, I think part one was more clip-centered, and part two was more about the here-and-now plot, but still used some clips.

I was particularly into TIH's clip shows because, when I was watching first-run, I'd missed a lot of the earlier episodes.

 

[Tuskin38]

but in many ways, they were correct.

Lol not they weren't. Not at all.

 

[Tim Thomason]

Lol not they weren't. Not at all.

*shrugs* I disagree, as already explained above. Have a nice day, Tuskin.

 

[NCC-73515]

You both agreed and disagreed:

It's not a clip show.

 

[Tim Thomason]

You both agreed and disagreed:

On the episode thread, someone referred to this as a "clip show" (and was stupidly derided for it), but in many ways, they were correct. This was definitely a "bottle episode",

It's not a clip show. It's vaguely like a clip show, in that they use vocal clips to pad out the story.

 

[dupersuper]

Is any one else in Canada getting the episodes a week late? My guide says Kobyashi won't be until next Thursday.

 

[Commander Troi]

Mod hat off: When I was a young comic reader, I couldn't get enough of new characters and concepts. Characters from multiple Earths, the Legion of Super-Heroes (whose first story I read was a reprint of the Adult Legion two-parter from the '60s, no less)...I soaked it all up like a sponge and just wanted to know more.

Ditto! And I still have more pre-Crisis stuff in my head than any sane person should.

Based on the teens I know, having practically everything available on the Net makes them more likely to investigate stuff from other eras once their curiosity is piqued.

 

[StarMan]

Well, I finally got around to watching the pilot today.

Up to episode 5. Yeah, that was not in today's plan.

I am floored at how much I'm enjoying this. What a curveball.

The opening credits and theme ... Holy hell. How awesome are they?

Edit: all caught up. Good grief. Quick fire random thoughts: Murf is just gorgeous. Big Red!? Heh. That vehicle replicator would've been particularly useful on Voyager *ahem*. Proper phaser beams for the win. Jason Mantzoukas! (bonus surprise when you haven't followed the development of the series). Could've sworn that was Emma Thompson voicing Zero.

Anyhoo - colour me impressed.

 

[The Wormhole]

Is any one else in Canada getting the episodes a week late? My guide says Kobyashi won't be until next Thursday.

It'll almost certainly be episode 7 on next Thursday. Cable listings for CTV Sci-Fi Channel tend to be notoriously inaccurate. For the entirety of Disco's third and fourth seasons, they had the plot description for the season 2 premiere up, and for the entire recent season of Doctor Who, including the New Year's special they had a plot description and cast listing for the 1996 telemovie.

Kobayashi did air on CTV Sci-Fi this past Thursday, so next Thursday should be the seventh episode.

 

[Tuskin38]

and for the entire recent season of Doctor Who, including the New Year's special they had a plot description and cast listing for the 1996 telemovie.

Unless they fixed them after airing, they're fine on my DVR. But I'm sure the New Years one was correct the week before hm.

I am getting Prodigy showing the wrong episode info though. It does say Kobayashi for this weeks.

 

[Tuskin38]

Yep, Ferengi next episode
https://twitter.com/TrekCore/status/1480618813787971586

 

[JoaquinSlowly]

Yep, Ferengi next episode
https://twitter.com/TrekCore/status/1480618813787971586

Nice. @Danja called it!

 

[Danja]

Nice. @Danja called it!

*** bows ***

Thankyouverymuch.

 

[JoaquinSlowly]

Paramount+’s press releases included the full episode description and writer/director credits for this week’s episode, First Con-tact, today.

Episode 107 – “First Con-tact” (Available to stream Thursday, January 13th)

When a mentor from Dal’s past persuades him to use their Federation cover for personal gain, they quickly discover Starfleet has protocols for a reason.

Written by: Diandra Pendleton-Thompson

Directed by: Steve Ahn, Sung Shin

 

[Tuskin38]

https://twitter.com/jennifermuro/status/1480649171283546112
https://trekmovie.com/2022/01/10/pr...irst-con-tact-reveal-another-trek-connection/

Grey DeLise is voicing the Ferengi.

Her name is Nandi, another check mark proving that leak right.

Nandi is also the name of a Ferengi ship class in Star Trek Online.