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Spoilers Star Trek: Prodigy 1x20 - "Supernova, Part 2"
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Video about this episode on the 7th rule youtube channel:
It's with Kevin and Dan Hageman. Incidently, they say the episode was written 2 or 3 years ago. Illustrates just how long it takes in animation to go from writing to finished product.
Edit: at 27:40, they talk about s3. It's a fingers crossed moment. Kevin Hageman says that the current TV climate is totally frightening, which is not terribly reassuring.
Around 30:40, they more or less imply that John Noble will be back in S2 (Kevin Hageman says he doesn't like shows that tease things and then don't follow up on it or only do so years later, after the host half-jokingly informs whether we can expect the Diviner in season 3 or 7)
According to Dan Hageman, 10 new episodes (Season 2A) in 2023.
Around 45:00, they also say that season 2 will be a different animal in some ways ("new restaurant, same characters") and that they deliberately left some unanswered questions in S1 to answer in S2. I like the sound of that.
Edit: at 27:40, they talk about s3. It's a fingers crossed moment. Kevin Hageman says that the current TV climate is totally frightening, which is not terribly reassuring.
Around 30:40, they more or less imply that John Noble will be back in S2 (Kevin Hageman says he doesn't like shows that tease things and then don't follow up on it or only do so years later, after the host half-jokingly informs whether we can expect the Diviner in season 3 or 7)
According to Dan Hageman, 10 new episodes (Season 2A) in 2023.
Around 45:00, they also say that season 2 will be a different animal in some ways ("new restaurant, same characters") and that they deliberately left some unanswered questions in S1 to answer in S2. I like the sound of that.
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I love it when little shows "for kids" end up kicking serious ass and showing other TV shows you can have accessibility for kids while giving a truly high quality experience for adults, too.
Let's hope it gets acknowledged by Paramount. Online, there are still many reactions to the show that are negative, among Trek fans: "I don't want to watch 6 Wesley Crushers" - "it's not Star Trek, it's generic fiction/Star wars" - "it's a cartoon, I don't watch cartoons" - "it's for kids" - "it's absurd to say its first season could be better than Strange New Worlds" - "the characters are inferior to the DS9 ones"
There is a surprising amount of resistance, now that the show has gotten critical acknowledgement and gotten part of the fanbase onboard.
Popularity does not engender positivity.
An interesting (to me) post by Redditor MaddMagpies I read on the Startrekprodigy subreddit reaction thread for the episode:
Also given the remarks of the Hageman brothers in the 7th rule video, they also said it will be like a new show next season. Not that this is bad, but it's true that they ended the present premise pretty early. Will that be the correct choice?
Well, most people who post things online are idiots. Welcome to the internet.
Then that means they should be selling more toys, not less.
So? Batman has like 20 outfits.
[*Queen Amidala peeks her head in the door and nods in agreement*]
I have seen people make this kind of statement before, but I have never understood it. Animation is a medium, not a genre. Why deliberately deprive yourself of some potentially great entertainment because of some bias against the medium it's presented in?
Another 9 this week, like the first part. I'm really looking forward to where season two takes us after this ending, with The Search for Chak. 
Poor ECH Janeway.
However, her sacrifice let her crew get home. Maybe something like this is how Endgame should have happened. 
I loved Admiral Janeway really standing up for the kids, it really made my little heart glow.
Poor ECH Janeway.
However, her sacrifice let her crew get home. Maybe something like this is how Endgame should have happened. I loved Admiral Janeway really standing up for the kids, it really made my little heart glow.
Great episode again. The show makes me really love Janeway. Optimistic, honorable, righteous, everything a Star Trek Captain →Admiral should be. The later seasons of Voyager kinda got away from that.
Prodigy is definitely in my top 5 shows of the year. Maybe even my number 1.
Prodigy is definitely in my top 5 shows of the year. Maybe even my number 1.
Seeing reactions online, some are thinking that Gwyn may have left alone on that shuttle, or at least confused whether or not she will be on a ship with Starfleet personnel.
When Janeway mentioned that Starfleet had agreed to offer aid for her to reach Solum, I just assumed that she was talking about an actual starship and crew. This due to the distance that is very likely involved (Solum is probably somewhere in an unexplored region of the Delta Quadrant) and also because I assumed that Starfleet would have a vested interest for her to succeed and that she would get more support than just a means of transport. People who would make sure the Vau N'akat do not detect their approach, who help her pick a site to land or (more likely) to beam down, to go over the preparations and to talk/offer moral support for what would be an immense task and pressure upon her shoulders.
Moreover, if they merely handed her a shuttle it would either need a slipstream drive of its own (not very likely that such a craft would exist at this time, I think) or she would need to use the (risky) transwarp conduits to get there before Janeway and the others do, 52 years later. And she would then either have to land the shuttle on Solum, or beam down from orbit and leave it there (as they did on DS9 with the runabouts, sometimes). So that seems awfully risky as Starfleet tech could easily end up in Vau N'akat hands, either way, or for that matter in Kazon hands if she runs into them in or near a transwarp conduit.
So, what do you think, is it obvious she needs to go with a ship and crew (and under de-facto Starfleet command/guidance, even if they don't formalise this, maybe to not formally breach the prime directive), or not quite?
When the shuttle she was on took off, it took roughly 1 minute and a half before Dal saw the warpflash that was probably supposed to be her ship or shuttle going to warp. Probably just enough time to reach orbit, enter the shuttlebay of a larger vessel and close the bay, if the captain/mission commander was in a hurry.
If she is by herself it would explain why Starfleet didn't want to send any or all of the others with her, though. An alternative explanation is that Janeway personally overseeing the "cadets" was something the brass demanded before they would agree to let them near a starship again, and Janeway does have another timesensitive mission she wants to take on.
I have read speculation that whatever Gwyn does on Solum could impact the stability of the timey-wimey wormhole thingy, as the more the actual future differs from the alternate one, the more unstable it could become. That could make a tension were good work of Gwyn could be an actual danger for the others, if they have yet to escape back to their own space/time.
With Dal and co supposed to be trainees next season, working alongside other Starfleet personnel in training (most likely a variety of ensigns and academy cadets), Janeway's vessel could be on a training mission. However, it seems hard to combine that with a highly dangerous voyage through the timey-wimey wormhole, combined with what would likely be a confrontation with Vau N'akat armed with tech 52 years in advance of the present. So I wonder how that is going to work. If it is a really large ship, think Sovereign or larger, it would be more likely that there would always be a relatively large number of fresh trainees rotating through the crew.
When Janeway mentioned that Starfleet had agreed to offer aid for her to reach Solum, I just assumed that she was talking about an actual starship and crew. This due to the distance that is very likely involved (Solum is probably somewhere in an unexplored region of the Delta Quadrant) and also because I assumed that Starfleet would have a vested interest for her to succeed and that she would get more support than just a means of transport. People who would make sure the Vau N'akat do not detect their approach, who help her pick a site to land or (more likely) to beam down, to go over the preparations and to talk/offer moral support for what would be an immense task and pressure upon her shoulders.
Moreover, if they merely handed her a shuttle it would either need a slipstream drive of its own (not very likely that such a craft would exist at this time, I think) or she would need to use the (risky) transwarp conduits to get there before Janeway and the others do, 52 years later. And she would then either have to land the shuttle on Solum, or beam down from orbit and leave it there (as they did on DS9 with the runabouts, sometimes). So that seems awfully risky as Starfleet tech could easily end up in Vau N'akat hands, either way, or for that matter in Kazon hands if she runs into them in or near a transwarp conduit.
So, what do you think, is it obvious she needs to go with a ship and crew (and under de-facto Starfleet command/guidance, even if they don't formalise this, maybe to not formally breach the prime directive), or not quite?
When the shuttle she was on took off, it took roughly 1 minute and a half before Dal saw the warpflash that was probably supposed to be her ship or shuttle going to warp. Probably just enough time to reach orbit, enter the shuttlebay of a larger vessel and close the bay, if the captain/mission commander was in a hurry.
If she is by herself it would explain why Starfleet didn't want to send any or all of the others with her, though. An alternative explanation is that Janeway personally overseeing the "cadets" was something the brass demanded before they would agree to let them near a starship again, and Janeway does have another timesensitive mission she wants to take on.
I have read speculation that whatever Gwyn does on Solum could impact the stability of the timey-wimey wormhole thingy, as the more the actual future differs from the alternate one, the more unstable it could become. That could make a tension were good work of Gwyn could be an actual danger for the others, if they have yet to escape back to their own space/time.
With Dal and co supposed to be trainees next season, working alongside other Starfleet personnel in training (most likely a variety of ensigns and academy cadets), Janeway's vessel could be on a training mission. However, it seems hard to combine that with a highly dangerous voyage through the timey-wimey wormhole, combined with what would likely be a confrontation with Vau N'akat armed with tech 52 years in advance of the present. So I wonder how that is going to work. If it is a really large ship, think Sovereign or larger, it would be more likely that there would always be a relatively large number of fresh trainees rotating through the crew.
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they also have a lower budget, though.
Same. Before Discovery, Voyager was my least favorite Star Trek, and I fucking hated Janeway. Prodigy Janeway is a much more likeable character for some reason. She's kinda like Admiral Mom now, and it fits.
With Janeway's personality in such a state of flux as VOY passed, it was hard to maintain uniform feelings for her.
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