Spoilers Star Trek: Prodigy 1x03 - "Starstruck"

[Tuskin38]

Also map
https://twitter.com/gaghyogi49/status/1457034389536313347

Also, according to one of the showrunners they used the Stellar Cartography book to help plot out the Protostar's journey
https://twitter.com/GoodAaron/status/1457222183151759363

 

[Brobdingnag]

Any particular reason you think the Federation is so evil now?

I don't think that means that they are evil. As the old say goes: "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

^ The word 'propaganda' implies evil intent.

 

[cooleddie74]

All advertising is propaganda by definition, but only the ones that are deliberately deceptive and have shady or malevolent intent behind it are "propaganda."

 

[DaveyNY]

Be Kind & Rewind!

Give a hoot, don't pollute!

Just Say No.

 

[Brobdingnag]

^ The word 'propaganda' implies evil intent.

I beg to differ. The word "propaganda", implies the promotion of a cause through deception. It doesn't say if the cause is good or evil, which at any rate is a matter of opinion, most of the time.

Say if you want to help orphans, for example, you could exaggerate their needs to possible donors, which sometimes people do in such circumstances. Can you really call that "evil intent" though? I mean you know the donors will give you less than what you ask for so you anticipate by asking more than is necessary. Sorry but that's not evil.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

"propaganda", implies the promotion of a cause through deception.

Exactly. Deception IS evil.

And there's no evidence that anything Janeway said in this episode was deception. She's telling the truth about what the Federation is, and how it was formed. No lies or half-truths involved.

 

[Brobdingnag]

Exactly. Deception IS evil.....

That's so wrong! I am surprised you even wrote that.

For instance, you can't fight a war with any chance of success without deceiving the enemy.

Telling the truth to an enemy is evil (especially if that enemy are the Nazis) and it's literally the opposite of deception.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

you can't fight a war with any chance of success without deceiving the enemy.

I suppose not. Point taken.

But in this case, that's not what we're seeing, is it? Janeway is speaking to what she believes is the legitimate crew of the Protostar. They're not the enemy. (She doesn't even know that these 'kids' are aliens who stole the ship.) So she has no reason to lie.

 

[Brobdingnag]

I suppose not. Point taken.

But in this case, that's not what we're seeing, is it? Janeway is speaking to what she believes is the legitimate crew of the Protostar. They're not the enemy. So she has no reason to lie.

Does she really believe that these are legitimate? Maybe she lulling them into a false sense of security.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Does she really believe that these are legitimate? Maybe she lulling them into a false sense of security.

The hologram?

 

[The Old Mixer]

I like the idea of the kids, being total outsiders, being cynical about the Federation. It worked on DS9...including with people who used to be insiders.

Just Say No.

I didn't inhale!

 

[DEWLine]

I'm sure she has some ideas - extrapolations on available evidence - about the true nature of these "cadets". She'll have access to psychological support databases on how to deal with them as trauma survivors who've lucked into an escape vehicle. That will be as important to Holo Janeway as getting the Protostar back into Federation hands.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Just had another thought:

How is Rok-Tahk able to get Tars Lamora prison food from the Protostar's replicators? It shouldn't have any information on the 'nutri-goop', because the prison complex was far from Federation territory.

 

[DEWLine]

Did the Federation already know of "nutri-goop" from other sources?

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Did the Federation already know of "nutri-goop" from other sources?

Unknown.

And most of the kids don't seem quick enough on the uptake to have actually made the Protostar interface with Tars Lamora's computer systems. Maybe Zero could have done it, but even that is unlikely.

I suppose the Protostar could have automatically linked with Tars Lamora's computers during its powerup sequence...

 

[Nerys Myk]

Nutri-goop is just mashed leola root.

 

[cooleddie74]

WELCOME TO FLAVOR MINING FACILITY!!!!

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Nutri-goop is just mashed leola root.

Looked more like the other end of the equation, if you get my meaning...

 

[JoaquinSlowly]

They seem to be speaking Federation Standard/English (see cat boots/cahoots) on the colony, and The Diviner seems well aware of the Federation.

Perhaps the nutri-goop is just the 2300s Federation equivalent of slop, or gruel?