Star Trek: Picard teaser trailer

[StarMan]

^I thought of Praxis before I wrote the above and I feel the writers of Star Trek VI used the same "logic" as what is being alluded to in the new Picard series - reducing interstellar empires to their home systems. The Unidiscovered Country referred to "dismantling the Starfleet" (or words to that effect)? Huh? I know, Cold War parallels.

The Federation has 150 members in the 24th Century. They have always been the big boys on the block compared to the other AQ powers vying for position. The Romulans & Klingons have always been presented as large interstellar empires with dominion over territory ... well, at least enough to have enough resources to pose a threat to a 150 member Federation.

I'm just saying that in BOTH the Praxis incident and the Romulus loss (the latter of which would be obviously devastating), the empires ought to have endured. In The Kelvin timeline Vulcan (a founding member) got sucked into a black hole. The Federation seemed to take it in it's stride and keep on chugging.

If the shockwave took out more than the home system then ... a) Q it. Afterall, why should humanity always have to get the righteous brunt of omnipotent beings? Or, b) Section 31 ... *ducks*... observed the Hobos supernova. They have concluded the the Romulans will always remain a thorn in the side of the Federation and never stop playing their Game of Thr.... anyway, they drop a *insert technobabble here* device in the already live supernova, which ruptures through subspace and/or expands space/time about it so the supernova's shockwave expands at a vastly faster rate than anyone predicted.

All that absurdity aside, I can't wait to see more of this.

 

[JoeZhang]

Yep - in the same way, it never is helpful to think how a technologically complex post-scarcity polity would actually operate (not the navy in space).

 

[F. King Daniel]

Anyone who's watched Nemesis knows how poorly the Romulans centralize their power. Kurtzman has already referred to the "dissolution of the Romulan Empire" so we know it happens.

And Earth falls = Federation dies has been the Trek trope forever.

Yes, you'd expect massive space empires to have plans X, Y and Z for catastrophic eventualities but apparently not in these ficticious worlds.

 

[StarMan]

I WOULD expect massive space empires to have plans X, Y and Z for catastrophic eventualities... which they apparently do (see ST09 - Federation).

Either they are massive empires on an even keel (or at least near enough to pose a direct threat) or they're heavily concentrated within their own star systems and neighboring... in which case, they'd be nothing compared to The Feds. They must have very special moons.

Now I really do want John Delancie back after re-watching the trailer.

 

[WarpFactorZ]

Anyone who's watched Nemesis knows how poorly the Romulans centralize their power. Kurtzman has already referred to the "dissolution of the Romulan Empire" so we know it happens.

And Earth falls = Federation dies has been the Trek trope forever.

Yes, you'd expect massive space empires to have plans X, Y and Z for catastrophic eventualities but apparently not in these ficticious worlds.

Well, consider the Earth parallels. If a catastrophic event were to occur in one of the large capital cities -- Washington, London, Paris, Moscow -- the decapitation of the government would leave a temporary vacuum of confusion and disarray. It doesn't matter how big the extent is, it's about continuity of government. If that isn't there, any opportunistic entity that wanted to sweep in and take over at that point would probably stand a chance of doing so, if they were sufficiently armed and prepared. Thus endeth the country in question.

It seems if Romulus were unexpectedly destroyed, and e.g. the Klingons seized the moment, they would quickly overcome what's left of the Empire.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

Or the Empire would fall to infighting. For all we know in picard, there could be 6 romulan 'empires' made up of fractured territories and ruled by parties with varying agendas al trying to fill the vacuum.

 

[JoeZhang]

Or the Empire would fall to infighting. For all we know in picard, there could be 6 romulan 'empires' made up of fractured territories and ruled by parties with varying agendas al trying to fill the vacuum.

Yes it's not hard to see that the vacuum in leadership means that the Empire quickly falls into dozens of tinpot dictators ruling various sectors.

 

[ITDUDE]

Well, consider the Earth parallels. If a catastrophic event were to occur in one of the large capital cities -- Washington, London, Paris, Moscow -- the decapitation of the government would leave a temporary vacuum of confusion and disarray. It doesn't matter how big the extent is, it's about continuity of government. If that isn't there, any opportunistic entity that wanted to sweep in and take over at that point would probably stand a chance of doing so, if they were sufficiently armed and prepared. Thus endeth the country in question.

It seems if Romulus were unexpectedly destroyed, and e.g. the Klingons seized the moment, they would quickly overcome what's left of the Empire.

If Washington DC falls and government is gone, I’d think our allies north and across the pond would step in and offer to govern us while we recover our government. Ain’t no one is invading US with all our guns in every backyard. We probably have more guns (in volume, if not per capita) in private hands than any country in the world.

 

[Romulan_spy]

I sure hope ST: Picard does not get the "Discovery treatment" where the showrunners retcon a bunch of stuff, change the look of Romulans etc... Although the show is set in the future so they can some things like change the look of ships and tech without any issues.

 

[The Old Mixer]

If Washington DC falls and government is gone, I’d think our allies north and across the pond would step in and offer to govern us while we recover our government.

Our allies across the pond: "Bwah-ha-ha! At last, we have you within our sovereignty once again!"

 

[Ovation]

There’s no need for ANY explanation about the peculiar nature of the Hobus supernova. That’s not the point of the series. It’s over a decade behind the show’s timeframe and serves as background context.

 

[ITDUDE]

Our allies across the pond: "Bwah-ha-ha! At last, we have you within our sovereignty once again!"

They couldn't handle Brexit, getting trying to annex US into UKA is a bit beyond what they can do.

 

[DaveyNY]

They couldn't handle Brexit, getting trying to annex US into UKA is a bit beyond what they can do.

Anyways, if it were to happen today, our current leader would just invite his closest friend Mr. Putin, to come over and take charge.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I sure hope ST: Picard does not get the "Discovery treatment" where the showrunners retcon a bunch of stuff, change the look of Romulans etc... Although the show is set in the future so they can some things like change the look of ships and tech without any issues.

They'll probably look a lot like Nero and his gang, and their ships will be dark and spikey.

 

[fireproof78]

They'll probably look a lot like Nero and his gang, and their ships will be dark and spikey.

Probably not.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Probably not.

They came from the Prime Universe, closer to the era of Picard than the square-shouldered Romulans of TNG

 

[fireproof78]

They came from the Prime Universe, closer to the era of Picard than the square-shouldered Romulans of TNG

Nero was hardly representative of the whole of the Romulans. So, I'll be surprised if they do look exactly the same.

Either way, more Romulans is better no matter what.

 

[JoeZhang]

I sure hope ST: Picard does not get the "Discovery treatment" where the showrunners retcon a bunch of stuff, change the look of Romulans etc... Although the show is set in the future so they can some things like change the look of ships and tech without any issues.

What like how TNG retconned them from TOS?

 

[tomalak301]

If this has been posted than I apologize for repeating it, but I look on Jammer's site at the various reviews and he linked this. It's the Picard Teaser as a viagra commercial. I thought it was hilarious.

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[Tuskin38]

They didn't change the look of the Vulcans, so I doubt they'll change the Romulans that much.