OMFG. That works on so many levels.
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OMFG. That works on so many levels.
The Romulans with the bumpy foreheads were a mistake. And now it's time to erase that mistake.
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Now I'm having flashbacks to the Imperial splinter groups - admirals staking out territory, warlords, and so on - presented in the old Star Wars Expanded Universe post-Endor.
Of course they're going to change it. I mean, we can't have things looking like they're form the 90s and stuff.
Except the romulans should never have been give bumpy foreheads. This was done by the powers that be because they thought the audience was too dumb to figure out the difference between romulans and vulcans. I'd be fine with romulans not having bumpy foreheads in STP
Attitudes about wine irrigation in Europe are changing. And you're failing to take into consideration the massive effect climate change will have on late 24th Century vinification.
The other Romulans we see in Spock's mind-meld just looked like normal Vulcans so I assume that's how they will look now.
"Fifteen years ago today, you led us out of the darkness. You commanded the greatest rescue armada in history. Then? The unimaginable. What did that cost you? Your faith? Your faith in us? Your faith in yourself? Tell us, why did you leave Starfleet, Admiral?"
Once I rescued those ripened grapes at Starflleet Academy from Boothby I had to make Chateu Picard '86
Once I rescued those ripened grapes at Starflleet Academy from Boothby I had to make Chateu Picard '86
What if... The Romulans decided to purge the Reunification movement and that was Picard's heroic rescue mission? The unthinkable is Hobus and that leaves us with the Reunification movement being the only surviving Romulans?
One of the people in the leaked photos is dressed quite similarly to Nero's thugs, leading me to suspect they're one of the show's Romulan characters. I could of course be wrong, but I expect Picard to carry over a lot of the reimagined visuals from the Kelvin universe as Discovery did.
Anyone who's watched Nemesis knows how poorly the Romulans centralize their power. Kurtzman has already referred to the "dissolution of the Romulan Empire" so we know it happens.
And Earth falls = Federation dies has been the Trek trope forever.
Yes, you'd expect massive space empires to have plans X, Y and Z for catastrophic eventualities but apparently not in these ficticious worlds.
The thing is the Romulans are a centralized, authoritarian regime. Taking the center out ot that - would be much, much more harmful than from a democracy that is used to self-gouvern through all regions.
If today Moscow or Peking would suddenly be innhalitated entirely - that would very likely take out the complete Russian or Chinese State as a result. Whereas if London or Washington+New York would vanish - that would be a massive catastrophe for both States, but the power structures are decentralized enough (and less violent internal conflict to errupt) that both would survive as functional States.
Russia and China would survive the obliteration of their capitals, too. It is not like they don't have politicians in the regions and other cities. The countries won't just fall apart. I think of your four examples the UK would suffer the most. A really large percentage of their population lives in London and then there is this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_London
"London produced in 2016 about £408 billion or $765 billion, over 22% of UK GDP, while the economy of the London metropolitan area—the largest in Europe—generates about 30 per cent of the UK's GDP (or an estimated $669 billion in 2005)."
I know where dealing in hypotheticals here - but that wasn't talking about GDP or population share.
Just completely ignoring any outside interference:
The UK - Brexit and all - has a much more resistant form of gouvernment, and very clear rules about how it elects it's leaders. If London would be taken out, of course that would be a massive blow to everything in the UK, from economics to morale. But all the cities and regions would follow the book - create an election for the survivors, have a clear power-structure, continue on seperation of powers. The biggest problems would be logistical - organizing and distributing everything.
Any authoritarian regime has armed insurgents, organizations within that are desperate for seccession (whereas in the UK, Scotland would get closer to England should that happen) - but most importantly, the lack of seperation of powers creates a "free for all"-situation: Local gouvernments would fight with each other for who's in power, there is no clear rule of succession in dact, and the "rulebook" got changed so much, it's not a reliable guideline - because the power was centralized by people, not by institutions.
If the American Supreme Court got taken out - there's a clear line of succession, and people wouldn't question the authority of the people moving up in ranks. And they could put up their court in a tent for all intents and purposes, they'd be legitimate
But if you have a leader that has installed a court with judges based on their loyalty, that people know bends the rules to the gouvernment's wishes - this instution itself breaks down once the people inside are gone.
The problem wouldn't be the immediate fallout in form of dead people or economy breaking down - The problem would be the complete anhilation of the entiretly of the known power structures through the entire ruled region, and a lack of legitimacy of any successors.
A mixture of smooth and bumpy headed Romulans works for me. Perhaps that's how their race developed. Some retained their Vulcan heritage more than others. Either that or they augmented their foreheads to differentiate themselves from Vulcans. Quite a few Romulans in TOS wore helmets so they could have had bumpy foreheads that we never saw.
They could just retcon it to being the Romulan home star.
I kinda like this idea.
It never did.
And after the first few scenes he'll end up so high that in the scenes from his inner POV, he'll be played by Seth Rogen. Sir Patrick will only play Picard whenever the scene is from someone else's POV.
"Retcon"? The movie actually shows it being the Romulan home star, doing a continuous run from Romulus through a rubble field to the star which then blows up, sweeps away the rubble field and shatters Romulus. It always was that, and never Hobus (because as everybody knows, the Romulan home star is called Eisn instead
).I'm cautiously positive about all these statements on the show being "grounded", visually and perhaps thematically. Lots of close-ups on characters in utilitarian sets and minimally dressed locations, so that it takes six episodes to patch together what the hero ship might look like, perhaps?
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