Spoilers Star Trek: Picard General Discussion Thread

[Hythlodeus]

Give me an example of that "tame language", please.

"God's blessing on your beard"

Love's Labors Lost, II.i.203
(This was a very rude curse because a man's facial hair was a point of pride for him. and "to play with someone's beard" was to insult him.)

"God's body"

1 Henry IV,II.i.26
( Swearing by Christ's body, (or any part thereof,) was off limits in civil discourse)

"God's Bod(y)kins, man"

Hamlet, II.ii.529
(The word bod(y)kin means "little body" or "dear body," but adding the cute little suffix does not make this curse any more acceptable)



"By God's [blest] mother!"

2 Henry VI, II.i;

3 Henry VI, III.ii;

Henry VIII, V.i
(Swearing by the virgin was almost as rude as swearing by her son, especially when addressing a catholic cathedral as Gloucester did in 2 Henry VI, II.)

 

[Dix]

Enlighten me. How so?

Profanities, alcoholism, smoking, drug use, to name just a few. The list is long. Those are 21st century issues, styles, characters, behaviors, and scenarios depicted as the 24th/25th Star Trek. Those hacks are trying to sell us something that is not. They should be candid and say, yes "this is the Jar Jar universe" from the reboot movies. It's another reboot/revision/reimagination of the known Trek universe. That would be fair. But they are fooling the audience.

 

[Dix]

How about 50 ...
https://www.nosweatshakespeare.com/resources/shakespeare-insults/

My god, I'm shocked.

 

[The Old Mixer]

"God's blessing on your beard"

Love's Labors Lost, II.i.203
(This was a very rude curse because a man's facial hair was a point of pride for him. and "to play with someone's beard" was to insult him.)

"God's body"

1 Henry IV,II.i.26
( Swearing by Christ's body, (or any part thereof,) was off limits in civil discourse)

"God's Bod(y)kins, man"

Hamlet, II.ii.529
(The word bod(y)kin means "little body" or "dear body," but adding the cute little suffix does not make this curse any more acceptable)



"By God's [blest] mother!"

2 Henry VI, II.i;

3 Henry VI, III.ii;

Henry VIII, V.i
(Swearing by the virgin was almost as rude as swearing by her son, especially when addressing a catholic cathedral as Gloucester did in 2 Henry VI, II.)

You're just fishin' for Likes now, ain't ya?

 

[The Old Mixer]

On a completely unrelated general show topic--I've been seeing a lot of people using "PIC" lately...has that been confirmed as the CBS-official abbreviation for the show? Because I think it sucks, but...

 

[Mutai Sho-Rin]

Right.
(below is your previous comment)

You stomp in here with a giant chip on your shoulder and a hateful diatribe and have the balls to complain about not being loved. Nice try. Next.

 

[DaveyNY]

My god, I'm shocked.

.... aaaand my assessment was correct ...

Again...,
Your apparent "Holier Than Thou" posturing does little to prove any point you are trying to make.

 

[Hythlodeus]

Profanities, alcoholism, smoking, drug use, to name just a few.

All of them are part of Star Trek since the 60s

 

[Hythlodeus]

You're just fishin' for Likes now, ain't ya?

Hey, if it's a fight about Shakespeare, I'm armed to the teeth

 

[Tuskin38]

Profanities, alcoholism, smoking, drug use, to name just a few.

All of which we’ve seen/heard in Trek productions before 2009

 

[The Old Mixer]

Hey, if it's a fight about Shakespeare, I'm armed to the teeth

I was hoping that somebody better versed in the Bard than I would challenge that assertion. I just vaguely remembered that there was some pretty raunchy stuff in there that modern audiences generally wouldn't understand without an explanation.

 

[Dix]

You stomp in here with a giant chip on your shoulder and a hateful diatribe and have the balls to complain about not being loved. Nice try. Next.

What are you talking about, grandpa?
This is a criticism of a bad show and how it pretends to represent Star Trek by putting a label of Star Trek on it. I'm just one of those hundreds and thousands of viewers who don't buy the opinions of professional critics and openly express their dissatisfaction with a show that is turning to be more like STD with each new episode. That's all. But you probably consider any view, review, or opinion being anything but positive towards this thing as being exotic. I see that's the case here.

 

[Lord Garth]

On a completely unrelated general show topic--I've been seeing a lot of people using "PIC" lately...has that been confirmed as the CBS-official abbreviation for the show? Because I think it sucks, but...

Seems to be. I like it better than PCD. But if they call a Pike Series Star Trek: Pike, I'm not bothering with an abbreviation. I'm calling it PIKE, no matter what everyone else does.

 

[Hythlodeus]

I was hoping that somebody better versed in the Bard than I would challenge that assertion. I just vaguely remembered that there was some pretty raunchy stuff in there that modern audiences generally wouldn't understand without an explanation.

the 'truly shocking' stuff back then were the religious bits which are hard to understand from a modern post-Age of Enlightenment point of view but as stated before, the Bard wasn't above sexual puns either.

 

[DaveyNY]

For his time, Shakespeare was Off The Wall !

The Royal Censors were probably having fits trying to keep up.

 

[Tuskin38]

I think D*x here has me blocked, they’ve stopped responding to me.

What are you talking about, grandpa?
This is a criticism of a bad show and how it pretends to represent Star Trek by putting a label of Star Trek on it. I'm just one of those hundreds and thousands of viewers who don't buy the opinions of professional critics and openly express their dissatisfaction with a show that is turning to be more like STD with each new episode. That's all. But you probably consider any view, review, or opinion not being positive towards this thing as being exotic. I see that's the case here.

People that hate show are in the minority, at least in this subforum. Probably because they moved on and are not wasting their time on something they hate. Which is the healthy thing to do IMO.

 

[DaveyNY]

Seems to be. I like it better than PCD. But if they call a Pike Series Star Trek: Pike, I'm not bothering with an abbreviation. I'm calling it PIKE, no matter what everyone else does.

I think it should be JLP, just to see certain heads explode.

 

[Hythlodeus]

For his time, Shakespeare was Off The Wall!

The Royal Censors were probably having fits trying to keep up.

they had. most of his plays were probably heavily censored

 

[DaveyNY]

I think D*x here has me blocked, they’ve stopped responding to me.


The people hating the show are in the minority, at least in this subforums. Probably because they moved on and are not wasting their time on something they hate.

Lucky you.

 

[fireproof78]

All of them are part of Star Trek since the 60s

All of which we’ve seen/heard in Trek productions before 2009

You both beat me to it. It sounded like McCoy and Kirk, especially in the films.

I was hoping that somebody better versed in the Bard than I would challenge that assertion. I just vaguely remembered that there was some pretty raunchy stuff in there that modern audiences generally wouldn't understand without an explanation.

Context is key.