Spoilers Star Trek: Picard General Discussion Thread

None of these series are going to last seven seasons because, as has been said repeatedly, streaming shows don't normally last seven seasons. The times have changed.

And the times don't favor it. We've lived in a deeply polarized political climate since 2000.

 

What I mean is the show would never had aired when Bush was in office. Star Trek has always reflected the current politcal climate in the USA.

 

No, you're right, it wouldn't have. But that's not the point. SNW won't last seven seasons either. It's as traditional as Star Trek can get.

Trust me, I would've liked DSC to last seven seasons because I predicted people who aren't fans of the show would say stuff like this. And now it's happening.

 

I understand what you are saying, but SNW might last 7 seasons as it's tradional trek that does not confuse the audience and respects the history of the franchise. The factor is if the cast gets greedy when their contracts are up. In my opinion the cast deserves any demands they make. I will always be thankful for Discovery for bringing back Trek, but it's new vision was disrespectful to the vast history previous Trek already established.

And I have no idea what you mean by "people like you" comment.

 

I didn't mean anything by it. Just people who don't like show. I'll rephrase it.

 

I like the show, but disliked the massive changes it brought to established lore.

 

Take care in using the NuTrek standard ST09, STID, STB, STP, STLD abbreviations with a certain other show on this forum.

I think about half of STLD is nice... just takes a while to become consistently good. PRODIGY I find legit great. SNW... well I just can't get over the tone/continuity problems with it, so found its first season to be harder to watch than that of the just canceled show.

And this season is insanely good.

This BBS seems to overrepresent the pro-DISCOVERY section of the fanbase. There's also Reddit, YouTube, podcasts, and Twitter if you need to come for air now and then.

One possibility is that people that disliked it would have gradually dropped off. I think for many Star Trek fans, the idea of ~not~ watching a ST series would seem like a very strange concept to them. One reason so many people end up hating DISCOVERY is that they stuck around for too long -- pretty much hate watching it, then hit their final breaking point that made them walk away.

Part of it is the different series' release methods. VGR was commissioned by UPN, who wouldn't have wanted many potential viewers to be alienated if the politics were too one sided and heavy handed -- so structurally it had to target a much broader market. Plus it had to meet FCC regulations. Whereas DISCOVERY was commissioned for streaming, had money coming in for Netflix for its first three seasons, and was willing to target much more narrow demographic segments, even if in doing so it was structurally divisive to many in the potential viewing audience.

 

It will not.

It already has disrespected the franchise anyway.

 

Well that's like...your opinion man....

 

My current guess as of episode 6 is they want Picard's old body to use to summon the "real borg" so they can come at fleet day and wipe out the entire starfleet. And they will try to turn Jack into the new Locutus in order to do this.

 

but why would the changelings care about that?

 

None of those show abbreviations are standard lol. I have never seen anyone use STP or STLD. I’ve only seen PIC, LDS and LOW. and sometimes just ‘LD’.

The movie ones are fine.

 

ST09, STID and STB are fine.
DSC. Not STD
PIC. Not STP.
LDS. Not STLD.
PRO.
SNW.

Don’t know why it’s that hard.

 

my god ... was that the corpse of the late admiral in cryostasis via ST:PIC S1 finale?

 

... and side note, TF does a the rogue alpha quadrant Dominion (re: ST: Online) want with the admiral's pre-positronic corpse? ... it's all very Nemesis cloney kine action with shadow enemies of the Federation.

 

... and also side note, them Eschelon-class cruisers are very DISCO era Shepard's.

 

On that we can agree.

Television is a much different entity than it was twenty-plus years ago when Voyager was on the air, and the "political climate" has nothing to do with it. Five seasons by the standards of modern day streaming services is considered extremely successful. A lot of streaming shows these day don't even get that much. Seriously, how many other streaming shows do you know of that even got five seasons? Not many.

 

Indeed.

Exactly. The comparison game to the old model is completely inaccurate.

 

No one is telling you your opinion but this is s discussion forum which means people will counter it and share they're own.

But, as far as hating a show, we'll, personally that's a waste of energy. I just don't watch TNG or VOY or ENT because I do not like them.

More than that, you have shows you do like. Maybe instead of focusing in what you don't like you focus on what you do?

 

Have some charts
https://tv.parrotanalytics.com/US/star-trek-picard-paramount-plus