Spoilers Star Trek: Picard General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by Tuskin38, Sep 28, 2019.

  1. cal888

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    DISCOVERY kinda broke the fanbase into different silos. STP and STLD have been used for years on YouTube, Reddit...
     
  2. fireproof78

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    I just goes with the parameters set by the Star Trek Encyclopedia.
     
  3. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Admiral Admiral

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    Must be by a small group of people. Because I've never seen those abbreviations used on reddit or youtube.
     
  4. Scionz

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    This is a good idea, and if that's the plot it would be satisfying, but I must disagree that it's what it is. Matalas said the Borg play no role in Season 3. So unless he's actively lying, which we have no reason to believe is the case, it's not about the Borg.

    The Borg idea is really good, especially since Matalas "redeemed" the Borg by saying the "real Borg are still out there" and dismissing Season 2's Borg as "weird shit". . But Matalas' said they aren't involved, so I'm going to take that at face value.

    Picard Season 3, as amazing as it is, has been one big exercise in repairing problems with the franchise that go back man years.
    -This new synth, the amalgamation of all the Soong-types in a human-positronic body is the best use of the Season 1 synth plot, and finally brings Data back in the single best way possible.
    - Making Seven a commander fixes the stuff she did in Seasons 1 and 2.
    - The way and the way they brought back Dr Crusher fixes the character's inexplicable absence in Season 1, considering this series takes place years later than the All Good Things Anti-Time Future (meaning: her absence particularly demanded explanation).
    - The production approach, the starships, the credits, the cinemtography fix the look of the series and make it look like compared to the much more consistent with other TNG productions.

    The list goes on and on. The series has been one big exercise in redemption. Even showing the original Connie, unchanged from TOS, showing and canonizing the refit NX-class (presumably NX-01?), showing Worf in the klingon makeup we know (which we all knew was going to happen) and the traditional ferengi makeup are all exercises in redemption. Redeeming retcons of Streaming trek by saying "it exists alongside" or "it is still canon", or tying up lose ends or fixing mistakes (the Klingon makeup, the Ferengi makeup). It's almost like the producers had a brainstorming session of "what unfinished business do we have from the Berman era shows, and how can we tie them up? And what things from the Streaming era need to be homogenized with classic-Trek?". Once they compiled the list, they resoved to fix them all.

    Which is Why, getting back to your comment, I'm thinking that what they want with Picard's body is a similar deep cut. It's not going to be something new. It's going to be something old, maybe something broken, that will be used in a novel way
     
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  5. eschaton

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    Not a single Trek series before Discovery was shorted to ST_. Series were either named after the first letters of their names following Star Trek (TOS, TNG, DS9) or the first three letters of their names (VOY, ENT).

    I actually don't like that people use DSC - I strongly prefer DIS for Discovery. DSC makes no sense.
     
  6. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Admiral Admiral

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    DSC is the official abbreviation, it's even used in-universe on the ship's shuttlecraft in the 23rd Century.
    VGR is also the official abbreviation for VOY. Though I don't use it, because I didn't learn that until years later, no sense in changing then.
     
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  8. fireproof78

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    How can there be a Last and Next Generation? :shrug:
     
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  9. Lord Garth

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    It's a matter of how it looks. It's no more to it than that. I like "DSC" better than "DIS". Not that I mind if people use "DIS". On the other hand, I like "VOY" better than "VGR", the latter of which was used by the Star Trek Encyclopedia.
     
  10. cooleddie74

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  11. Timofnine

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    The season final is called The Last Generation. I am glad that Terry has confirmed that the episode will not literally be about ‘the last generation’. The title sounded ominous at first.
     
  12. fireproof78

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    It still strikes me as a bit nonsensical. Unless "Last" means "Previous" in which case just call it the "Previous Generation" and the "New Generation." Or with Terry's predilection of liking "Legacy" go with "The Legacy Generation" and the "Next Generation."

    I don't know. It's grammatically odd, and is annoying my pedantic side.
     
  13. Timofnine

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    At first it read to me as that the episode would be about the last generation…. ever. :shrug:

    Like The ‘Last’ of the Mohicans.
     
  14. Precious Tritium

    Precious Tritium Commander Red Shirt

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    STP for Prodigy, right? Or wait, is that for Picard? If only there were a simpler abbreviation to distinguish these different shows.
     
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  15. cooleddie74

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    TOS
    TAS
    TNG
    DS9
    VOY
    ENT
    DSC
    SHO(Short Treks)
    PIC
    LD
    PRO
    SNW
     
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  16. fireproof78

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    That's how it reads to me and that's fine but don't double back on it then. Irritating.

    Pretty close to mine.
     
  17. Campe

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    I believe I recall Mike McMahon suggesting Lower Decks was LDS.

    I adore that.
     
  18. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Admiral Admiral

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    Yeah in reference to Star Trek 4.
     
  19. Lord Garth

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    I thought about that, then dismissed it after less than a second. They have too much stuff going on the future: the 29th Century, the 31st, the 32nd... I can see them writing off Captain Braxton and Daniels as "Possible Futures" but they promoted the later seasons of DSC as "The Future". And I don't see them calling Disco a "Possible Future" at this stage.

    So I took "The Last Generation" to mean "The Previous Generation". Let's be honest: "The Last Generation" sounds a lot better for a title than "The Previous Generation".
     
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  20. Timofnine

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    I like the sound of The Quondam Generation myself. :shrug: