Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x10 - "The Last Generation"

[Markonian]

Please no more mirror universe or borg or mirror universe borg or borg bringing the mirror universe

Please no

Resistance is futile.

 

[Racefuel]

Checks release date of First Contact...

...

...hmmm.

Star Wars fans think their shit is the first, most clever and firstest of the scifi franchises.

Source: I have two Star Wars fanatics who I hear this from every day

 

[HotRod]

Checks release date of First Contact...

...

...hmmm.

The Queen from First Contact was in alot better condition. I'm more comparing the idea of a decrepit enemy, thought to be gone, back suddenly, pretty much out if nowhere, looking to be restored to their former glory.

 

[Racefuel]

I am not sure the goal was to restore former glory...but to utterly destroy a galaxy they could no longer have.

Where the Borg before wanted to assimilate, add to their numbers, add to their distinctiveness, etc..the Queen outright said they were going to conquer and destroy

 

[HotRod]

To be fair, Star Trek is hardly the most original idea. I mean, clearly ol' Gene had watched Forbidden Planet, First Spaceship on Venus, and many other 50's sci-fi flicks before he ever hit the typewriter.

 

[NCC-73515]

Jack had every intent to murder the Queen to put an end to all of it. He had no idea she placed an apparent restraining bolt in him preventing him from actually carrying it out.

Directive 4 from Robocop

It reminded me of all those times I tried attacking the Starbase while I was playing that Interplay Star Fleet Academy game 25 years ago.

I read you can tractor the base to a battle and it'll fight for you - haven't tried it yet though

Didi anyone else think this was the H.R. Geiger design of Borg Queens?

Giger. He doesn't count

That is for me what the Picard series was always about, the final frontier isn't about going long distances or encountering aliens, it was always about the characters discovering themselves ...

'Not behind that next star, but within us, woven into the threads that bind us...'

The super cube operated at 36% as it had to prioritise most of its power and resource on controlling the assimulated Fed fleet, not to mention that the Borg are weakened anyhow ... also that after 30+ years Data is actually good at steering, and Beverly Crusher exposed Worf for being a poor gunner ... perhaps he should have been chief medical officer... imagine the possibilities??

You may now give birth. Very orderly. Why has it not begun?!

 

[FreezeC77]

In the novelverse, the Borg of the Mirror Universe are led by a King (and travel in diamonds as opposed to cubes).

Do they speak backwards?

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Do they speak backwards?

Assimilated be will you. Futile is resistance. Borg the are we.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Do they speak backwards?

Me am the Borg.

 

[Deks]

The only instance we've ever heard of Drones working in the TNG era is Geordis reference that they were loading torpedoes into the Enterprise-D in Vox.

The whole "Dot" drones thing is a Discovery invention and has never been observed in any other Star Trek, mostly because Discovery invented it.

You're applying Discovery era info to TNG/DS9/Voyager events, which isn't possible right now.

BTW, we saw that the Enterprise was being pieced together, slowly, in Boobytrap, we also saw a Galaxy class under construction in pieces in Season 7.

We've also seen the Utopia yards in Voyager and they were still very much building ships the old fashioned way.

Building ships in pieces suggests they could have still been constructed using prefabrication methods (only merged with replicators, transporters and tractor beams to fabricate smaller sections and then assemble them - the hulls of the ships are using magnetic seals between sections - 0 welding - The Cerritos proved this, and First Contact also showed this).
There is no 'old fashioned way' of building ships here really because space is excessively dangerous and you need to use automation for most of the stuff here.

 

[cooleddie74]

Assimilated be will you. Futile is resistance. Borg the are we.

Yoda man for posting this.

 

[Deks]

Shelby said explicitly it would take "less than a year" to rebuild the fleet following 359, so presumably that means the annual production is in excess of 40 ships per year.

We know the Enterprise was still being built 1 year prior to Encounter at Farpoint in 2363 as its warp core was not even finalized until 2362 (Boobytrap) and the events of "Eye of the Beholder" take place 8 years prior to that episode in Season 7, so again..at least a year prior to Farpoint.

Based on what has been seen on screen, the minimum production time is 2 years for a Galaxy class, probably closer to 3.

There is a difference between designing a ship (being on the drawing board) and actually constructing it.
Its the 'drawing board' part that usually takes years... not actual construction. Construction could be delayed if new technology needs to be incorporated, which can slow things down a bit... but still, with transporters and replicators, it would be fairly simple to beam out a section and replace it with a new one... SF ships are modular after all ... or built with modularity in mind... so internals can be pretty much swapped out more or less - some will have to be customized to a given ship, but with adaptive algorithms, doing this wouldn't take very long).

 

[HotRod]

The whole "Dot" drones thing is a Discovery invention and has never been observed in any other Star Trek, mostly because Discovery invented it.

We saw DOT repair drones crawling all over the Titan-A's hull back in episode..... 5, I think.

 

[Deks]

Not at least, at maximum at least in normal operations

Even if low impulse velocities were used, we're talking about potentially hundreds or 1000 km/s at minimum.
You'd effectively slam into a wall of a spacedock you are entering, or shoot out of it faster than a bullet.
The way I see it, thrusters would be a must here.

The only instance we've ever heard of Drones working in the TNG era is Geordis reference that they were loading torpedoes into the Enterprise-D in Vox.

The whole "Dot" drones thing is a Discovery invention and has never been observed in any other Star Trek, mostly because Discovery invented it.

You're applying Discovery era info to TNG/DS9/Voyager events, which isn't possible right now.

BTW, we saw that the Enterprise was being pieced together, slowly, in Boobytrap, we also saw a Galaxy class under construction in pieces in Season 7.

We've also seen the Utopia yards in Voyager and they were still very much building ships the old fashioned way.

Actually the Titan-A was seen using drones on its hull to repair the damage it suffered from its fight with the Shrike.
So, not impossible.
Also, using drones to load torpedoes... if they can do that, they can do more - but honestly, LaForge should have just beamed the torpedoes to the Enterprise-D.

 

[Racefuel]

We saw DOT repair drones crawling all over the Titan-A's hull back in episode..... 5, I think.

Did we? If we did then fair enough, episode four feels like a lifetime ago.

 

[fireproof78]

We saw DOT repair drones crawling all over the Titan-A's hull back in episode..... 5, I think.

Their programming precludes other options though. I shouldn't have to explain why

 

[The Old Mixer]

I've removed the reply ban on @dinzy .

 

[Mudd]

The absolute truth is that the best line in this episode was: "Ma'am, I'm a cook."

 

[Racefuel]

Hey, remember that debate we were having about whether or not there would be cooks in Starfleet and they were just use civilians

Who knew that would be settled that fast

 

[Nerys Myk]

Hey, remember that debate we were having about whether or not there would be cooks in Starfleet and they were just use civilians

Who knew that would be settled that fast

And they have a special color uniform.