While not to go terribly OT..I will say a big part of the Bill Shatner perception is because Takei has been able to largely control the narrative.
Yes he has an ego, of course he would...but so does Takei
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While not to go terribly OT..I will say a big part of the Bill Shatner perception is because Takei has been able to largely control the narrative.
Yes he has an ego, of course he would...but so does Takei
Also forgot the nice nod to Anton Yelchin (and Anton Chekhov the playwright for that matter as well)
Man, was that good, so happy that the 12 year old in this 63-year old body can still get the feels that deep about a Star Trek show... Excellent execution and performances all around... and the card game at the end... nostalgia overload!
What better example of "family values" can you have but a father coming to rescue his son from assimilation... Very touching father-son scene (Sir Patrick can still act!) with flashback moments interspersed, and a very ugly queen at first laughing evilly and then becoming increasingly panicked.
The weirdo in me wanted to see the babe queen who properly stimulated Data those many years ago, but the mutilated female ogre brought home the Borg pain more succinctly, I guess. The wannabe wordsmith in me loved the queen going from assimilation to annihilation/evolution, and the contrast between procreate (human) and propagate (Borg).
To go along with that humanistic message, you have the standard, yet delicious quips and humor shots, from Worf's "I will make it a threesome" and Riker's reaction, to a poignant assertion that "farewell" and "defeat" are not in the Klingon vocabulary, and the heavy sword hiding a phaser (swords are fun). And then there were the requisite Data quips as well, classic.
As far as the one year later epilogue and introduction, it kind of left me if not cold, then lukewarm. Jeri Ryan did show her acting chops and would likely be just fine as a lead character in a Legacy spinoff, but I'm not as sure about Rafi or Jack, as I don't find them compelling enough as characters. I would rather have seen Section 31 as a series than Legacy, but it will at least have a movie.
Only nine weeks to go before Strange New Worlds!
What better example of "family values" can you have but a father coming to rescue his son from assimilation... Very touching father-son scene (Sir Patrick can still act!) with flashback moments interspersed, and a very ugly queen at first laughing evilly and then becoming increasingly panicked.
The weirdo in me wanted to see the babe queen who properly stimulated Data those many years ago, but the mutilated female ogre brought home the Borg pain more succinctly, I guess. The wannabe wordsmith in me loved the queen going from assimilation to annihilation/evolution, and the contrast between procreate (human) and propagate (Borg).
To go along with that humanistic message, you have the standard, yet delicious quips and humor shots, from Worf's "I will make it a threesome" and Riker's reaction, to a poignant assertion that "farewell" and "defeat" are not in the Klingon vocabulary, and the heavy sword hiding a phaser (swords are fun). And then there were the requisite Data quips as well, classic.
As far as the one year later epilogue and introduction, it kind of left me if not cold, then lukewarm. Jeri Ryan did show her acting chops and would likely be just fine as a lead character in a Legacy spinoff, but I'm not as sure about Rafi or Jack, as I don't find them compelling enough as characters. I would rather have seen Section 31 as a series than Legacy, but it will at least have a movie.
Only nine weeks to go before Strange New Worlds!
Tell that to the whomp rats .
Matalas has talked about in interviews that one possible angle a Legacy series might focus on is the aftermath of this being the equivalent of "The Snap" in the MCU. A society-wide traumatic event that would fundamentally alter people's viewpoints and government policies.
One thing not touched on extensively, but that was a lot of debris in Earth orbit the Enterprise and Titan are flying through. So I'm guessing the death toll is as bad, if not worse, than Wolf 359.
One thing not touched on extensively, but that was a lot of debris in Earth orbit the Enterprise and Titan are flying through. So I'm guessing the death toll is as bad, if not worse, than Wolf 359.
It would seem that Spacedock had some mighty sharp teeth indeed. An Odyssey class ship is seen up close with *epic* hull breaches also.
I got more Death Star II vibes.
yes. it was all Ash Tyler's fault
You keep repeating this. What’s the source? Goldsman was probably watching Star Trek before Matalas was born. He’s a fan.
I don’t think Shatner has ever said anything bad about Takei, the animosity is entirely one-sided.
I also find it a bit funny when Takei brings up Shatner’s line-counting, etc., as diminishing his potential contributions to the show, but forgets he fucked off for half a season to make The Green Berets. Like maybe that sent a message to the producers you weren’t all that interested in your character.
Originally the entire TOS cast was supposed to be onboard for the Enterprise-B sequence in Generations. One by one they dropped off when they felt they weren't going to get the attention they felt they deserved. Nimoy said he felt Spocks role was "prefunctory", Takei dropped out, so did Nichelle Nichols.
As time went on the TOS decided it was okay to throw stones in glass houses, as long as the glass house was Bill Shatners.
As time went on the TOS decided it was okay to throw stones in glass houses, as long as the glass house was Bill Shatners.
I do remember Shatner addressing it during an interview on The Howard Stern Show back in the late 90s. The way Shatner talked about it, Takei really, really, really wanted Sulu to be a captain of his own ship, and he didn't understand it. And, it's a radio show where they're trying to be funny, but the way Shatner described it made Takei sound delusional about the whole thing, like making the character a captain was like achieving a real rank, and that it made no sense narratively, since it would divide the cast and put Takei shooting his scenes away from the rest of them.
Shatner has been aware of how the rest of the TOS cast feels about him for a long, long time. I believe when he wrote Star Trek Memories , James Doohan refused to talk to him for it (I think Doohan is quoted as saying: "I like Captain Kirk a lot, but I can't say that I'm very fond of Bill Shatner.") And for the longest time, Shatner's closest friendship with the cast was with Nimoy, but supposedly there was some sort of falling out between them before Nimoy's death.
From the Variety Article:
https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/star-trek-picard-finale-spinoff-seven-of-nine-q-poker-1235590557/
Was the Titan always going to be rechristened the Enterprise?
We had discussed it. We did toy with a different name, that it might be the Picard. But ultimately, it didn’t feel as genuine and as right for the legacy of “Star Trek” and Seven of Nine as the Enterprise. And certainly when you see the Titan with that name on its hull, you’re just like, yeah, it deserves that name. It just looks so right.
I think it would've been a mistake to call it the Picard, unless he was dead dead "never coming back!" dead.
Terry is doing an AMA on reddit right now
https://www.reddit.com/r/television/comments/12u907s/im_terry_matalas_showrunner_and_executive/
https://www.reddit.com/r/television/comments/12u907s/im_terry_matalas_showrunner_and_executive/
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Shatner says inexplicably Nimoy stopped returning calls, stopped accepting lunch/dinner meet ups, refused all contact. Shatner wrote a long, heartfelt letter to Leonard expressing his love for him and cherishing his friendship, etc.
Adam Nimoy later told Bill that his father never lost affection for Shatner though.
Sometimes when faced with imminent mortality and the end of their earthly existence..people get a little unstable.
Its all very sad, and its very obvious that it grieves Shatner to this day
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