She's an idiot who holds Kruge to have been a master strategist?
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x08 - "Surrender"
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She's an idiot who holds Kruge to have been a master strategist?
It's not a perfect answer though, part of the point of me suggesting it was that this would be ridiculous. Leave your massive (and as far as we know, only) superwarship unmanned and defenceless? Why?
No actual tears, I think, but definitely misty-eyed a few times and some tightening of the throat here and there.
But, yes, a lot depends on where you are in your life and what buttons a work of fiction may push. I was caught off-guard a few years back, not long after my parents died, when a stage production of "A Christmas Story" turned me into a soggy mess. The nostalgic evocation of long-ago Christmas mornings with my now-deceased folks undid me without warning.
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Must be it! But it's all very odd though, because earlier in the season she seemed pretty on the ball, eg in the battle in the nebula.
What did we see? The Shrike was destroyed. Ergo, conditions were such to make that possible. How? Go with the most likely scenario. Worf and/or Raffi disabled the shields beyond the ability of anyone remaining on the ship to repair. I, for one, didn’t need a 3 minute scene where that sabotage occurred. That would have been spoon feeding. If, however, the rescue was carried out by Jack and Beverly, I might’ve wanted a bit more detail as they do not explicitly have the same skill sets as Worf and Raffi.
I suggest you go back and rewatch the episode and focus on the part where Data is chewing out the changelings and villains on the ship.
1) The dialogue is hilarious
2) it's very much an evolved version of Data with Lore's Flair for the dramatic.
3) THE NEXT DAMN SCENE is Data explaining how he's no longer just Data bit an amalgam of all three and why he no longer has any interest in death.
We know they sent out 100 into the wider galaxy and only 3 would return by the opening of the Dominion War. Presumably Section 31 captured about ten of them to begin the experiments.
Not all the changelings presumably accepted the humilitation of the War Ending, as at the end of the day it was a humiliation for The Dominion in their own eyes and would break away. It's obvious that Vadic, and whoever's fully in charge of these Changelings is another agent within all of this.
Everyone got a bit obsessed with the ten shown on screen in the S31 experiments and forget a few episodes earlier where it's shown the infiltration runs to the hundreds at every level you can think of.
Interesting thing to note. We've only seen Evolved/Conspiracy Changelings adopt bipedal forms, we've not seen them be bulkheads, space squids, or anything not a human shape. Suggesting their mophogenic matrix has been effectively fixed into such a way as a compromise at beating all the scans necessary to truly blend in.
Quite the horrific thing to have done.
This was covered in like... Episode Two. Go back and watch it, they say it doesn't match any known Fed Database, and when they scan it a few minutes later it has a smorgasboard of weaponry from the Greatest Hits of Star Trek, including some the Klingons and Federation banned between them because of how horrible they are.
Vadic probably did not see any threat that would warrant keeping the shields raised. After all, she had taken over the Titan and incapacitated the crew. The Titan was in no position to fire at the Shrike. And there were no other ships around.
No. But we can guess. Maybe Vadic stole the Shrike from someone. Or, maybe the Shrike is a new class of Dominion ship that the Founders built at the end of the Dominion war and these rogue changelings got their hands on it. It is not unreasonable that the rogue changelings when they got kicked out of the Great Link could have gone to a Dominion shipyard and taken some ships to use for their plan.
If you look at the design of the Shrike it is very similar to the Jem Hadar Battlecruiser.
Its pretty clear that the Shrike is intended to be a next generaiton Dominion Ship
To each their own, I guess...I find TNG S5 to be ok, but mosly mediocre with a lot of dull and boring episodes mixed in amongst a few great ones.
"Silicon Avatar" is dull and yet another "Soong Android" gag
"Disaster "is pretty weak, kids and Picard singing is never a good mix
"The Game" is very standard and pretty implausible
The conclusion to "Unification" is very unsatisfying and in some cases absolute nonsense
"New Ground" is dull, pedantic "TNG does family drama" crap
"Hero Worship" is bottom of the barrel, probably one of my 10-least favorite TNG outings
"Ethics" and "The Outcast" both criminally boring
"Cost of Living" is shit all around
"Masterpiece Society" is even more dull than "Ethics" or "The Outcast"...and that is saying something. Bland, unengaging crap
"Imaginary Friend" is bottom 5 TNG material...really really bad.
There are some absolute gems in there (Darmok, Conundrum, Power Play, Cause and Effect, The First Duty, The Inner Light)...but there are far too many filler, boring duds to have S5 TNG even be a top TNG season, let alone a top franchise season. When you average it all out, S5 TNG is pretty...well...average.
I can't stand dull Star Trek. I'll take sloppily-written Star Trek with some excitement and intrigue over dull Star Trek any day. Star Trek was never meant to be dull. TNG was one of the biggest offenders here.
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Actually yes you are right, I’d forgotten about this.
Have watched two minutes of the show and not read this thread yet, my apologies, I just uncontrollably need to say that Vadic is definitely smoking blunts.
Definitely my interpretation. The battle is over as far as they’re concerned (the ship to ship bit of it anyway) they control both ships.
First they know about anything is the torpedos incoming.
How can anyone who watches golf complain about shite TV
Vadic probably planned on eventually either returning back to the Shrike or having some of her crew go back.
Makes perfect sense to me for the ship's shields to be off.
She was in control of both ships from the point when her crew beamed in and took the Titan's bridge.
Makes perfect sense to me for the ship's shields to be off.
She was in control of both ships from the point when her crew beamed in and took the Titan's bridge.
Didn't they pretend to be the floor of the turbo lift when Seven checked it out?
I always felt that season 5 was a step down from the previous 2 seasons, and that season 6 was a return to form. But in fairness, the last third of the season does have I, Borg, Cause and Effect, The First Duty and The Inner Light. That's four 10/10s in my book.
Season 5 was a very mixed bag, but there were some gems for sure. I imagine its partly because Seasons 3 and 4 were fairly expensive, and Season 5 started with a spendy Redemption Part II.
They just seemed to be out of shot, rather than blended in.
I'm not a troll or alt account or whatever. I just love good storytelling. They've had 8 episodes now and we've literally gotten nowhere.
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