Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x06 - "The Bounty"
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"The One With the Whales"
It sounds like an episode of Friends.
It's what my grandmother wrote on our bootleg VHS copy of that movie!
I'm giving this a: 7.5. The cat and mouse game and claustrophobic settings are getting old but it makes up for it in shameless pandering to fans (me). Well played. If I wasn't a Trekkie it might be a 6?
Small-universe-Trek, ahem Picard season 3 unloads 3 shotgun barrels (I counted) at us of familiar stuff and we all hooted and hollered with delight.
It's all I'll remember about this plot.
Oh, the acting is wonderful.
*Writes notes on PADD to bring flashlight to the party next time*
Small-universe-Trek, ahem Picard season 3 unloads 3 shotgun barrels (I counted) at us of familiar stuff and we all hooted and hollered with delight.
It's all I'll remember about this plot.
Oh, the acting is wonderful.
*Writes notes on PADD to bring flashlight to the party next time*
Catching up with Picard and just finished this episode. What an incredibly fun chapter to what has been an incredible season so far. I knew I was going to see the "fAn sErViCe" stuff here but, man, I just cannot imagine complaining with how they did it. It was great.
My heart is fine, thank you for your concern
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i suppose the subsequent streak of excellent episode had to end eventually still that episode wasn't awful just not very good also that old connie being there just proves to me that it doesn't hold up and shouldn't be used in any modern production and using it here was a mistake
And framed as an homage to the way they would end episodes of Boston Legal. Kirk and Picard, with a drink and cigar, overlooking the world. Would have been amazing.
Our cast has just been around long enough to be in the know at this point. The way its phrased, it wouldn't be out of probability for Will to NOT know about them, until he said that he did. They are still... Section 31. Nothing new.
Or that "Picard" is occurring before the end of the Temporal Cold War finalizes the timeline.
Hah! I totally heard that in Shatner's voice. Hilarious.
Given the choice, I'll take the bag of quarters.
The episode for me was okay, but don't see why rank it so high other than all the fanservice/memberberries in it which seems to be all Trek wins with anymore.
Give me some story. The characters I love.
Give me some goddamn light!
Aspects also feels too SW than ST with near instant travel between locations. Inliked it better when high-warp travel between planets was implied to take hours or days helped keep the notion that space is really fucking big. Unless the Museum and the Vault are in bith in binary system or something that shouldn't warp back and forth between them inside and hour. But I'm getting but picky.
It's not terrible, just still don't feel it and don't see why so many ar so ga-ga over it.
It's better than S1 and S2 but the last round on/at the toilet with food poisoning is better than the first too, so....
I thought of Star Wars every time Geordi and his daughter mentioned "speeders."
Now I'm sad thats not real. That would be one of the most amazing episodes ever.
Trying to right, what once went wrong and save the Federation.
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Me too. It would have been amazing, respectful, a great deep cut, a fitting tribute to the end of the Questor's story, and the greatest tribute to Gene. It will be my headcanon, regardless. (assuming the story works out in that way, as I still have 4 episodes to go, and I am purposefully spacing them out at this point. I don't binge. I try to read the entire thread before moving on. lmao.)
I thought he was going to change his name to Soong.
It just hit me as I was posting something about "Relics" in another thread.
It was nice that they remembered Picard saying "There's one in the fleet museum." And we did see an original Constitution class ship there.
It was nice that they remembered Picard saying "There's one in the fleet museum." And we did see an original Constitution class ship there.
Hmmm... So they start by beaming into the chamber. One where the main cartridge panel to swap out coded keys with counterfeits is so easily accessible. I rolled with it as tv shows always put in the occasional convenience, and the strength of the overall storytelling of the episode made it easily overlooked as everything else didn't feel contrived. Or I'm picking more nits than nostrils, so I'll carry on:
Would still like to know more about Vadic, why she slices off demon hand, and her Big Bad Ship. But loved the cliffhanger at the end when she reveals herself was eminently satisfying. Ditto for Troi.
Geordi steals the show in this episode. /simple
The story behind Data was pretty solid. Why Brent Spiner ever thought he should stop playing Data because he would look old. Didn't faze me at all. Both Spiner and Data are timeless. His transitions into Lore and, indeed, B4, carried some nifty dramatic weight.
I know why Kirk's reference is there as I'd seen a later episode, but it was one hell of a jaw-dropper that would clue in a hell of a payoff later.
Okay, the warp effect gave me a good jump scare for one scene, but I am still not used to Star Trek using this style of disengaging warp.
That said, seeing so many Federation ships around a base or planet again is genuinely refreshing. Especially with the old trope of "there are no other ships available", and it's lovely to see so many different designs. The CGI this season has been as sumptuous as it is expansive.
How come perfectly working display panels have that jittery janky look? (or did I miss something?)
The museum scene started to get into major padding territory, and fanwanky (the most so far), and yet Seven's storytelling to Jack more - more - more than makes up for it. Plus, it gave a great reason to get a cloak - with some nice continuity as being forced to keep shields down to beam kept a sense of threat in check. Gotta love the tone of this season with claustrophobia and threat build-up.
I think Raffi said "tech" once and she's no longer in the civilian funtime areas. A mild distraction at most but I'll whine, why not.
The use of Moriarty and the whistle tune is as ingenious as it is fanwanky.
The plot of being in the middle of a conspiracy is, of course, out of "Conspiracy". However, recalling how "The Motion Picture" was just "The Changeling" and a handful of bits of TOS episodes rekerjiggered and made far better - if not its own, season 3 took the best ideas from "Conspiracy" and other bits and made them better and made them its own. So, yeah, this episode's gonna get a high rating despite any ntpicks.
I normally don't care for this sort of subplot, but "shipping"... but with the acting and subtle nuances, hell yeah, get Jack and Sydney a ship! Just don't turn the show into outright soap opera. Mew mew mew mew mew! 
Speaking of acting and subtle nuances, there are quite a few moments I didn't mention in my posts so far. And the themes woven and recurring are simply marvelous.
8.75/10, will round up.
And now, to look upward to previous posts and pontificate profusely while masticating pretzels. Sorry that there's no synonym for "masticating" that starts with "p", but as the word sounds dirty and was used ad nauseum in late-1960s sketch comedy shows, it'll stick.
On edit: Oh bleep. Only now did the episode title occur to me as being the name of the stolen Klingon ship that Kirk used. And I heard Jack and Seven discussing it!
(Worf's line about superior Klingon technology was another of many frickin' awesome moments too.)
Would still like to know more about Vadic, why she slices off demon hand, and her Big Bad Ship. But loved the cliffhanger at the end when she reveals herself was eminently satisfying. Ditto for Troi.
Geordi steals the show in this episode. /simple
The story behind Data was pretty solid. Why Brent Spiner ever thought he should stop playing Data because he would look old. Didn't faze me at all. Both Spiner and Data are timeless. His transitions into Lore and, indeed, B4, carried some nifty dramatic weight.
I know why Kirk's reference is there as I'd seen a later episode, but it was one hell of a jaw-dropper that would clue in a hell of a payoff later.
Okay, the warp effect gave me a good jump scare for one scene, but I am still not used to Star Trek using this style of disengaging warp.
That said, seeing so many Federation ships around a base or planet again is genuinely refreshing. Especially with the old trope of "there are no other ships available", and it's lovely to see so many different designs. The CGI this season has been as sumptuous as it is expansive.
How come perfectly working display panels have that jittery janky look? (or did I miss something?)
The museum scene started to get into major padding territory, and fanwanky (the most so far), and yet Seven's storytelling to Jack more - more - more than makes up for it. Plus, it gave a great reason to get a cloak - with some nice continuity as being forced to keep shields down to beam kept a sense of threat in check. Gotta love the tone of this season with claustrophobia and threat build-up.
I think Raffi said "tech" once and she's no longer in the civilian funtime areas. A mild distraction at most but I'll whine, why not.
The use of Moriarty and the whistle tune is as ingenious as it is fanwanky.
The plot of being in the middle of a conspiracy is, of course, out of "Conspiracy". However, recalling how "The Motion Picture" was just "The Changeling" and a handful of bits of TOS episodes rekerjiggered and made far better - if not its own, season 3 took the best ideas from "Conspiracy" and other bits and made them better and made them its own. So, yeah, this episode's gonna get a high rating despite any ntpicks.
I normally don't care for this sort of subplot, but "shipping"... but with the acting and subtle nuances, hell yeah, get Jack and Sydney a ship!
Just don't turn the show into outright soap opera. Mew mew mew mew mew! Speaking of acting and subtle nuances, there are quite a few moments I didn't mention in my posts so far. And the themes woven and recurring are simply marvelous.
8.75/10, will round up.
And now, to look upward to previous posts and pontificate profusely while masticating pretzels. Sorry that there's no synonym for "masticating" that starts with "p", but as the word sounds dirty and was used ad nauseum in late-1960s sketch comedy shows, it'll stick.
On edit: Oh bleep. Only now did the episode title occur to me as being the name of the stolen Klingon ship that Kirk used. And I heard Jack and Seven discussing it!
(Worf's line about superior Klingon technology was another of many frickin' awesome moments too.)
I think the reality is less a case of "Brent Spiner thinks he looks too old to play Data", and more a case of "Brent Spiner has reached an age where he's just had enough of spending 16 hours a day covered in multiple layers of makeup, body paint, and powder, and not being able to touch anything." Apparently not being able to take the yellow contacts out himself because of the makeup on his hands used to drive him mad.
Best. Tribble. Ever.
Whoever adopts it should give it the name "Spike". Not sure why...Might be more next episode? What angles that were shown did look great.
I forgot about Picard's android body, so when the big reveal of his biological body being taken -- yeah, that retroactively does a LOT of great.
But which Defiant?
Last week, I attended 2 solo recitals at Disney Hall: the Sunday evening perfomance by organist Wayne Marshall, and the Wednesday evening performance by violinist Leila Josefowicz. I found the Wayne Marshall performance disappointing: noisy and tastelessly hyper-Romantic. Familiar pieces sounded like caricatures of themselves. On the other hand, Leila's performance, without a single familiar opus, was amazing. It was everything Sunday evening was NOT.
I say this because "The Bounty" was, for me, everything "Impostors" was not. Brent Spiner had a tour-de-force in his few minutes of actually speaking, shifting between personalities and voices in a way that made his earlier, similar performance in TNG: "Masks" seem like small potatoes. LeVar showed us what a couple of decades of fatherhood could do even to Geordi. Where "Imposters" got a 7 out of me, this got a 10.
After watching it with the commentary track, and watching the deleted scenes, I like it even more.
I did, however, find the discussion of smoking in the commentary track a bit mind-boggling: I've never understood how sucking on a burning poisonous plant could be worth becoming addicted to sucking on a burning poisonous plant. Think about it: nicotine is an insecticide. That is its function in the tobacco plant. Does anybody in his or her right mind snort organophosphates? Does anybody huff Raid or Black Flag?
I say this because "The Bounty" was, for me, everything "Impostors" was not. Brent Spiner had a tour-de-force in his few minutes of actually speaking, shifting between personalities and voices in a way that made his earlier, similar performance in TNG: "Masks" seem like small potatoes. LeVar showed us what a couple of decades of fatherhood could do even to Geordi. Where "Imposters" got a 7 out of me, this got a 10.
After watching it with the commentary track, and watching the deleted scenes, I like it even more.
I did, however, find the discussion of smoking in the commentary track a bit mind-boggling: I've never understood how sucking on a burning poisonous plant could be worth becoming addicted to sucking on a burning poisonous plant. Think about it: nicotine is an insecticide. That is its function in the tobacco plant. Does anybody in his or her right mind snort organophosphates? Does anybody huff Raid or Black Flag?
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