Not any more than this is the "default painting of humans on a genetic level". It's just easy to draw and someone without any drawing experience may stil ldo it easily.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x05 - "Imposters"
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Not any more than this is the "default painting of humans on a genetic level". It's just easy to draw and someone without any drawing experience may stil ldo it easily.
I can agree on that: effects on streaming trek have been extremely uneven so far.
He can flap tendrils about, and does so, and could run down his own trouser leg if he chose. The real reason is production, and writing, but the end result in the fiction just matches everything else.
Why didn’t the one on The Ship? Because they hadn’t considered it when they wrote it. No different to Odo’s communicator not being a part of him, except when it obviously is. In universe? Maybe they were too tired, maybe Vorta/Dominion communicators work in a different way to how we know Bajoran/Fed ones do. Maybe they use telepathy, and someone had a headache from being solid too long. Maybe they chose not to for some other sneaky reason that served their purpose.
Why didn’t he try to pass as Bajoran? He was raised Bajoran. On the other hand, that was during the occupation. Some mirror universe type Odo somewhere may identify as more cardassian.
Our Odo though is almost protective of his ‘outsider’ status, because that’s something his trauma when young impresses on him, with his complicated relationship with his adopted father and culture. It’s a character trait for him, that we also see reflected in the Founders Xenophobia. I would not normally fuss about the idea of genetic memory, but it the case of the founders, that is pretty front and centre.
Odo is a rare thing for his species. He is an individual. That’s sort of the point.
Another great episode for this season!
And another 12 MONKEYS nod... Kirk Acevedo's Krinn being a 'brother' through hardship mirrors the same bond as him and James Cole (Sneed) in 12 MONKEYS.
And another 12 MONKEYS nod... Kirk Acevedo's Krinn being a 'brother' through hardship mirrors the same bond as him and James Cole (Sneed) in 12 MONKEYS.
Nope, it was definitely the name ‘Changeling’ that was used offensively. Though on occasion Founders have been called shapeshifters on Deep Space Nine.
Perhaps the true story is that someone is hunting down the Founders/Changelings in revenge for the Dominion War? We have been told that this group of Changelings is attempting to get revenge after *losing* the war. The Founders also look strange like they are infected with something - Section 31 has been known to infect Founders with things before. Perhaps Section 31 are behind this and the conspiracy is actually home grown from within Starfleet itself. This would make it all a bit like Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country. The Maquis, and thus Ro, along with many other victims of the Dominion may want revenge on the Dominion/Founders after all the Maquis and millions of others were wiped out. This Founder prejudice and purge could run in parallel to Captain Shaw’s own personal story with his thoughts about the Borg having survived Wolf 359, and also to the story of the ex-b’s in season one of Picard. Hopefully Captain Shaw is not involved in this conspiracy though.
The Founders themselves could be being framed for the attack on the Starfleet recruitment center and soon an attempted attack on Frontier Day?
I am not quite sure how Captain Picard’s son Jack fits in to all of this yet though?
Surprisingly, some quick Googling didn't turn up a comprehensive catalog of all Bajoran earrings. There's a project for someone. I assumed they'd go by family, since they used to be indicative of caste, but Kira's parents' earrings seem to match each others', and but don't look much like Nerys's (Meru and Taban had more dangly bits, and neither had the distinctive seashell-shape).
That makes the most sense. He has unaddressed PTSD from Wolf 359, Picard himself is onboard - him being functional is rather impressive.
Not any more than this is the "default painting of humans on a genetic level". It's just easy to draw and someone without any drawing experience may stil ldo it easily.
Which was in many ways the original point when developing Odo’s look by Westmore. The unfinished sculpture, like the protohumanoids in TNG. But as the story on DS9 progresses, it’s quite apparent something different is going on with why he looks like that, in universe rather than out of it.
And a stick figure is basic iconography, rather than an attempt at ‘default human’ made in complete ignorance. It’s a developed symbol only. Otherwise the head would be a different shape for a start — not every child starts drawing with stick figures unless taught to do so, and the choice of additional details and the order or style in which they add them is always interesting. (Hair, fingers, face, style of facial representation, secondary sex characteristics, clothes, how the clothes are added, ears… sometimes used as developmental markers.) The same is true when looking at what might be labelled ‘primitive art’ or art history in general. But in all those cases, we are talking about external representation of self, and of a group, rather than what in Odo’s case would be an internal representation — he is his own self portrait, with more control than other people. Why does he choose *that* eye colour, in universe? Why mimic the structures of the eye so closely, when he clearly does not need to? If he can do such small and complex detail, how could Bajoran nose ridges, or Cardassian forehead indentation be beyond him?
Perhaps he chooses his default face precisely because to be Bajoran would be to invite more difficulty from the Cardassians, but he does not wish to be Cardassian either for much the same reason.
Better to be something different from both, and better to hang onto whatever identity he can muster.
My semi-joking theory that at least one of his parents was a changeling infiltrator, possibly a sleeper that didn’t know it, is looking more likely. As is my joke that Picards Nads still had Borg bits in.
The default is the Kira earring, and easiest to source as merchandise as likely helped here.
Whether you call it that or even whether lots of people call it that isn’t really the point. The point is that language works that way. If I said that I lived a couple of miles from the Russian border that narrows it down to about 10,000 km of different locations.
Also from Wikipedia which was the top result for Atlantic border:
“The East Coast of the United States, also known as the Eastern Seaboard, the Atlantic Coast, and the Atlantic Seaboard, is the coastline where the Eastern United States meets the North Atlantic Ocean.”
except that they had, as stated in multiple interviews. And after all odo is a knockoff in many way of the T-1000 (again, as stated in interviews and they even used the movie to prove it was doable) and in that movie they definitely stated shapeshifters can’t do complex machinery.
such as when? We never see odo’s communicator becoming goo.
Maybe you’re again making up stuff to justify your pet theory that has no basis and has been contradicted by the show runners decades ago.
But Odo always wanted to discover more about his people, not to pass as a solid. Initially, at least, he feels superior to solids anyway.
surprisingly?
It never was.
I am sure that was literally whispering through the Great Link for years. By the time of DSC in the future, in the Gamma Quadrant, ‘Laashole’ is a word, and ‘bit foggy in here’ is euphemism for when there’s a surfeit of Lassholery occurring.
Not necessarily.
A generic description.
Processing power and storage.
The EMH is Huge.
The Raffi program is probably tiny.
She does less stuff, for less time.
And saying that NYC is not the entire East Coast is exactly my point. The original post said Earth was on the edge of the Alpha Quadrant and therefore the edge of the Alpha quadrant can’t be that far away.
Showrunner said on twitter there's a reason they look different