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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x06 - "Two of One"

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It's not that far-fetched what he is saying.

Her hair does have some resemblance with the hair of Eileen Merrell, a character from the HBO show "The Deuce", which is supposed to encapsulate the stereotypical 70s hooker look.

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Defending stupid only makes you look worse than you normally do. It's the same as "early 80's hair", where literally every girl had the feathered thing going on.
 
anyway, as i was going to say before the racist textual diarhhea pump and his newfound dingleberry reoriented the thread, this was a good episode. I am a lot more impressed with PIC season 2 than one, even as they are taking a lot of risks. i do have a feeling we will end up knowing not much more about the supervisors than we already did, though I am also more convinced than ever that Grudge is one of them. :D
 
50) It's the middle of the night. Why would this doctor be working? How did Rios even get a hold of her?
Does he know her address? How?

She complains about having the get back home before her daughter realizes she's left in the middle of the night again. Clearly they went to the clinic and called her on the phone since her home phone or cell phone number will definitely be written down in her office somewhere, it's probably on speed dial on the receptionists phone.
 
Still, we the audience is doing a lot of heavy lifting with this particular episode.

I enjoyed it enough though, but, yeah, once you start thinking too deeply about shows like this, the suspension of disbelief evaporates.
 
Picard was given Arik Soong's Gollum.

A specialized android designed to absorb an organic personality and they copy their physical requirements exactly.

The promise that Picard had a normal human life span and capabilities suggests to me that all that biology may not keep him alive, or able... I think it's an off switch. A massive off switch. When his fake biology receives damage, his actually synth biology "mimics" damage to give Picard a complete human experience.

If that is true then surely the opposite wo
Another great chapter!



What does this even mean?

He must have got the Choose Your Own Adventure version
 
It’s part of their rather unhealthy obsession with Jean-Luc not changing in ANY significant way. They want TNG Jean-Luc and nothing and no one else despite the fact that decades have passed by now both IRL and in the Trek universe. Hence their anger towards him having a synthetic-in-origin body, it’s an uncomfortably loud reminder of the fact that things have changed. I found it rather amusing when they cheered for him now “being human again” in the Confederation timeline (says a lot about them that they cheer for a human fascist regime timeline but I digress) only to be reminded of the fact that Q mentions that Jean-Luc still has a synth body thanks to his fight with Skull Dukat. Too bad. :D

I don’t know what the problem is and why some people can’t just accept Jean-Luc the way he is. The first thing I thought when I heard about the defibrillator not working on him was “oh wow I’m gonna assign Jean-Luc to tumble dryer duty now because I hate that static electricity thingy that happens with some of the laundry when you take it out, he’s probably unaffected by it - how neat!” :lol:

I generally love the idea of… err… exploring his synth body? Making sure everything is where it should be? (And if not that would be okay too, of course.) Is this TMI? If so, sorry. But you get the idea. Human or synth, I don’t care, Jean-Luc is Jean-Luc and that’s enough for me. :adore:

I'm not clamouring for Picard to revert to being human but I do think RoboPicard was poor, contrived writing. When Soong mentioned the golem in Season One I thought that it was a way to bring Data back which, whilst still fairly contrived I could understand the desire to undo Nemesis and bring back a major character (Trek also has form with Spock after all). I also wondered, given the focus on his health, if they were going to give him a big send off just to bring him back to life but figured that would be too ridiculous (only it wasn't). I think what didn't help was that Data got such a moving death scene but it was a bit odd for Data to insist on dying because it's an essential part of being human whilst having Picard cheat death via this convenient golem Soong had lying around.

Having said all that, I do think exploring his new body would be a good idea but the fact the writers have chosen not to make a big deal of it makes me think they realise it was a bit silly and just want to move on. I mean, it could have been a major plot point after the car accident but wasn't. I was wondering it was going to be a 'come clean' moment and the doctor would become a fully clued up part of the gang as it were.

Ultimately though, I'm not going to lie, Picard's been a pretty fun ride and I'm curious to see where it goes. I also like how it hasn't just been a standard starship-based series and we've got to see a different side of the Star Trek universe.
 
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Things that struck me about this Ep, in no particular order...


Adam Soong -- as others have noted, the progenitor of the Soong line or actually the source for all the subsequent Soong clones (or does he just have very dominant genes...?!)

Kore -- the timing within the previously established timelines may be a little off here, but are they going to tell us that this the beginning of the Eugenics programme that leads to the Augments and Khan Noonien-Singh...? (And is this connected to the real problem with the timeline?). Why is Adam Soong a BIG figure in the Confederation future, extolling Human supremacy...?

Q -- He's being manipulative for sure, but I'm not wholly convinced that Q is being as nefarious as it may at first appear. I suspect that there's something in all of this that JLP needs to do / process / understand.

Soong and the car -- my take was that this was blind luck, he didn't expect to see JLP and Renee; having failed at his attempt to sideline JLP at the party, he saw an unexpected opportunity and figured it was his one chance to do what Q had asked him (even if murder may have somewhat exceeded the scope of Q's intent).

Robo-Picard is something the writers are stuck with, even if it's hard to make the concept make sense most of the time. He'd have to be pretty damn close to a "real" human for a physician not to spot a problem. It bugs me when drama shows completely mess with medical stuff but it's not fully material to the story they want to tell so I'll have to park my annoyance and move on...

Pill can sing. Yeah, OK, the arrangement / orchestration was a bit too tight to be pulled out of thin air but I'm good with Queenie somehow scanning their set list (and selectively re-activating power for the PA, amps, follow-spot. Moving on...).

Juratie and Queenie -- great double act, but hope they don't over-play it. What *is* Queenie's agenda?! Could she indeed be going after the Cochrane line or some other way to do her own timeline messing?


Finally, who the F*** is this guy...??!!
JLP, you got problems, dude!
(Any bets on whether we'll see more of this next week once Tallinn is inside his head?)

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Picard is an android synth as opposed to a traditional Soong android. Meaning he has blood and flesh. But I contend it remains a distinction without much of a difference, and it's a bit of a stretch to assume he would have complete organs as well.
That was the whole point in season 1. The new synths are organic and pretty much indistinguishable from humans even with 24th century technology.
But the greater point is that it is utterly implausible for this show to suggest that Seven, Raffi, or Rios wouldn't immediately drag Jurati from her bowing on stage so that she could immediately attend to the android synth
she got lost in the crowd. Something to do with a Queen wanting to disappear as fast as possible, I gather.

44) Rios exclaims that Picard has a pulse despite the fact that he's an android.
again, he’s not an android.

45) Rios exclaims that Picard needs a bio bed and not, say, the expertise of Jurati who in fact was mentored in Soong android tech by Bruce Maddox himself.
she is nowhere to be found. And they said it. And evidently you knew it already.

46) Rios exclaims that a hospital will want ID, as if they didn't execute a plan where they just concocted fake ID's for one scenario. But don't you dare do the same thing for this scenario!
they had to plan and execute the security inception. I guess they could do it with an hospital as well, but they are in a hurry.

48) Sure hope that video cameras exist in 2024 or else Soong might not be getting arrested tonight.
good point. He’s playing a very dangerous game. He’s a mad scientist, after all.

50) It's the middle of the night. Why would this doctor be working? How did Rios even get a hold of her?
Does he know her address? How?
she wasn’t working, she said something like Rios called her. Her number was on the outside of the clinic for emergencies, perhaps? Or in the web?

50) How did Seven pay for the bus ticket in the previous episode.(I just remembered)
try to remember when Raffi knocked out a would be robber and got herself a pile of cash.

52) Soong, a world renowned geneticist, suddenly complains about the inventions he's also created...?

53) Soong proclaims that, "The 'why' of things matters!" And thus perfectly encapsulates sentiment held by lifelong Star Trek fans who hate this show... lmao
reading this my first question would be a “what”, but I’d settle for a a “why” as well.

55) Doctor leaves her clinic to strangers. I guess Rios knows how to lock up the place so as not to get looted? In a very poor place too. Maybe the criminals have a con-science??
yeah, I guess Rios isn’t the only one to be enfatuated.

Soong conveniently leaves Not Soji alone just so that she can discover the truth about her past! More contrived piss poor writing. Soji never used a computer before to look up Daddy Dearest?
that was far fetched, yes.

Based on no evidence or expertise Not Laris suggests that the car impact on Picard is not the issue but rather the psychological state of the android is what is keeping him in a comatose state. Yes, that's right...
she scanned him just before saying that.

Not Laris invokes the term "mind-meld". Does she even know the Vulcan race exists? Why is she assuming these humans understand what a mind-meld is?
gary seven knew about the Vulcans and their future relationship with the humans.

Not Laris, a passive character by all accounts, is suddenly advocating for a rather invasive procedure...
about time she does something! As you correctly note, she’s been extremely passive so far.

Not Laris asserts that only Picard knows anything about Q, as if his former first officer, or another Starfleet captain, or a corner Borg drone & crewmember of the USS Voyager wouldn't all be intimately aware of Q, the Q Continuum, and all the shenanigans Starfleet/humanity endured because of Q. So, so, so stupid.
sure, they know about q, but talin doesn’t know that they know!

Rios asserts that they need Picard awake to get their future back based on no evidence whatsoever.
he said it without giving it much thought.

It’s part of their rather unhealthy obsession with Jean-Luc not changing in ANY significant way. They want TNG Jean-Luc and nothing and no one else despite the fact that decades have passed by now both IRL and in the Trek universe. Hence their anger towards him having a synthetic-in-origin body, it’s an uncomfortably loud reminder of the fact that things have changed.
go figure. I hated the finale of season 1, but not for giving him a synth body. In fact I found extremely fitting and ironic that one for of the most human characters to end up in an artificial body.

I don’t know what the problem is and why some people can’t just accept Jean-Luc the way he is. The first thing I thought when I heard about the defibrillator not working on him was “oh wow I’m gonna assign Jean-Luc to tumble dryer duty now because I hate that static electricity thingy that happens with some of the laundry when you take it out, he’s probably unaffected by it - how neat!” :lol:
funnily enough, a defibrillator might have had issues with his previous body as well. The one with the artificial heart!

Picard has blood and organs as a disguise, whether those blood and organs serve some essential purpose is another matter entirely. I recall Data talking about his humanesque parts serving secondary functions beyond his ability to pass for an organic life form.
data has enough organic components to be able to get drunk…

Picard was given Arik Soong's Gollum.
my preciousss!
 
That was the whole point in season 1. The new synths are organic and pretty much indistinguishable from humans even with 24th century technology.

A difference which makes no difference is no difference at all.

This was also part of the problem with the rebooted Battlestar Galactica. They really aren't synthetic if you can't tell them apart from organic material. They are just grown organic bodies, aged to whatever age they need to be, that have the memory engrams inserted.
 
Side note: just realised that pretty much in every episode we’ve been shown security forces doing an abysmal job.

Episode 1, with the Starfeet security on the Stargazer ignoring their captain’s order to stop firing (and still totally failing at incapacitating the queen);
Episode 2, confederation security being totally inept in having their president and an alien PoW kidnapped and then to stop a supposedly small and underpowered vessel to leave;
Episode 3, the security guy buying 7’s and raffi’s story on the tower and especially ICE doing a raid without blocking the back exit;
Episode 4, the ICE ward beating up Rios (sadly, this is the most realistic instance of the list);
Episode 5, the french policeman NOT reporting in and calling for backup before entering a cloaked spaceship (!!!). But also the ICE bus drivers opening up the prisoners area of the bus for no reason, ending up being beaten up by one of the prisoners.
And now the several deficiencies of the security people of this supposed high security gala.

Probably just a coincidence, but pretty amusing.
 
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