Does that mean anything?
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x04 - "Watcher"
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It was previously seen in The City on the Edge of Forever and Past Tense. Just a Star Trek time-travel Easter egg.
Just an Easter Egg that originated in City On the Edge of Forever. It's been in a few episodes set in the 20th and now 21st Century.
No she wouldn't. That's not how most people's minds work. If it was called the Deck 10 bow observation lounge for a year, there's no way Troi calls it that 6 years after the name 10 Forward is introduced.
Exactly. They would call by common term, not past terminology.
I completely agree with that assessment.
For an example of the same kind of referencing, during summers I went to the same camp as a kid my entire life. I ended up working on the campgrounds over the summers as a teenager. Before they expanded the facilities, for the first decade of my life, a room that is now called the main hall was referred to as the multipurpose room.
When I worked at the camp years later and told campers stories about my time as a kid there I’d refer to it as the main hall, even though I knew it as the multipurpose room at the time the stories took place, because it was both the current frame of reference for everyone participating in the conversation, and it had become what I thought of it as over time.
If it was already a bar in the same place, I think it’s very plausible that Deanna would refer to it as 10 Forward, even when referring to a time when it might have had a different name.
Here's a question... why not use the original young Guinan from Rascals?
This seems to be her:
Would not be a recast, would fit well, would be a great easteregg for those who know, and irrelevant to those who don't, and she looks much more like the Guinan from before and after.
This seems to be her:
Would not be a recast, would fit well, would be a great easteregg for those who know, and irrelevant to those who don't, and she looks much more like the Guinan from before and after.
indeed: as I mentioned several pages back, the confederation timeline doesn’t sound that bad if you remove the Trek background.
We’re talking about a human society that has solved pollution on earth and apparently is no longer racist (at least towards other humans), has plenty of resources, including robots to use for menial jobs, and has eliminated most alien threats. Also, at least superficially, it seems a democracy. Compare it to the situation in franchises such as warhammer 40000 or even Star Wars and it doesn’t look that bad.
I just find it funny that Star Trek always operated with "X on old Earth was bad and this is why your allegorical representation of X is a bad thing", but as soon as we're just shown X directly, in a time-travel episode to the present era to boot, it's immediately just ham-fisted, "too-political" and opinionated writers pushing their regressive left progressive agenda from their soapbox, going with whatever's topical in the left-wing public as opposed to being creative with their social commentary.
One could think that they don't actually have a problem with an otherwise good message being presented in a too blunt way but actually with how without an allegorical representation, it's made obvious that the message is and always has been a progressive one in the first place. Especially when first season had an allegory with the Federation refusing to help Romulan refugees fleeing a supernova and becoming isolationist, people immediately complained... that the allegory was ham-fisted, too political and just opinionated writers pushing their regressive left progressive agenda from their soapbox, going with whatever's topical in the left-wing public as opposed to being creative with their social commentary. Nah, I don't think they simply have a problem with the presentation.
One could think that they don't actually have a problem with an otherwise good message being presented in a too blunt way but actually with how without an allegorical representation, it's made obvious that the message is and always has been a progressive one in the first place. Especially when first season had an allegory with the Federation refusing to help Romulan refugees fleeing a supernova and becoming isolationist, people immediately complained... that the allegory was ham-fisted, too political and just opinionated writers pushing their regressive left progressive agenda from their soapbox, going with whatever's topical in the left-wing public as opposed to being creative with their social commentary. Nah, I don't think they simply have a problem with the presentation.
Apart from Rascals and Sister Act, she has no other acting credits (she went on to work in TV production at MTV/Viacom in some capacity), so perhaps she didn't want to act anymore.Here's a question... why not use the original young Guinan from Rascals?
This seems to be her:
Would not be a recast, would fit well, would be a great easteregg for those who know, and irrelevant to those who don't, and she looks much more like the Guinan from before and after.
But Ito Aghayere was fine.
Who else has re-watched "Assignment Earth" in preparation for the next episode?
Oh, for sure. Watched it the other day.
When Picard beams into LA and the whole sequence after that.
There were some others sprinkled in, I’d have to rewatch it to tell you exactly where.
It's Brian Brophy all over again.Here's a question... why not use the original young Guinan from Rascals?
This seems to be her:
Would not be a recast, would fit well, would be a great easteregg for those who know, and irrelevant to those who don't, and she looks much more like the Guinan from before and after.
Allegories about the present day work better in Trek because our characters don't actually live in the present day. ICE means nothing to someone from the 25th century but the 25th century version of ICE would mean something more to the characters because it would be part of their daily world. Allegories are also less demanding in terms of realism. People have a better feel if you doing something real and it doesn't feel accurate than when your doing something fictional.
And what stops them from seeing it as a bad part of history that reminds them of the mistakes humanity have committed before setting aside their differences? Just because it's centuries in the past, they have no obligation to be dispassionate about it and dismiss it as a part of history, a mere academic curiosity. Especially not when the person concerned is the canonically Latin American Rios whose people were directly involved in that part of history. It's functionally no different from Sisko taking offense to the idealized representation of race relations in the 60s in Vic Fontaine's bar, other than that Rios actually experiences it personally.
Temporal Investigations.
They lock up refugees from alt timelines like Picard after First Contact.
All is Brian Brophy.
"The deed...is done."
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