Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x04 - "Watcher"
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I didn't find it confusing at all, it only took me a moment to realize after watching it myself (before Terry's interview) that that's why Guinan didn't remember him.
Doug Drexler is also perfectly fine with Terry's explanation he's probably a bigger fan of the pre-2009 series than most of us.
Heck freaking RMB was fine with it. And he's a hardcore purist nitpicks and complains the hell out of everything new trek, as some people who browse the Discovery subforum would know.
Doug Drexler is also perfectly fine with Terry's explanation he's probably a bigger fan of the pre-2009 series than most of us.
Heck freaking RMB was fine with it. And he's a hardcore purist nitpicks and complains the hell out of everything new trek, as some people who browse the Discovery subforum would know.
Guinan also called her and others like her 'Supervisors', which was also the title given to Gary Seven in TOS.
And the trailer from Episode 5
She appears to have a vault door in her office similar to Gary
Canon says they were fleeing when the B was launched
Concerning Guinan and the punk and the timeline, I think our Trek nerdiness is getting in the way of seeing the obvious answers through no shortcoming of the show. I was terribly distracted by Guinan not recognizing Picard, but when I explained the issue to my mom (who only got on board with Trek with Discovery), she ably suggested that the future didn't happen, so obviously they never met. Obviously.
Matalas's answer makes sense, and you don't need charts to explain Guinan or the punk: the future we know was erased, along with all the journeys those future characters took, but some people remember echoes of what should have been.
Matalas's answer makes sense, and you don't need charts to explain Guinan or the punk: the future we know was erased, along with all the journeys those future characters took, but some people remember echoes of what should have been.
Guinan must have gone home at some point between the 19th century and that time.
Or the writers of Generations forgot Time’s Arrow! /sarcasm
According to Q-Who the El-Aurian homeworld was assimilated a century ago, which would put it around 2266, 26 years before Generations.
Guinan could have been rounding/estimating, but 24 years is a big round. Maybe it took a while for the refuge ships to arrive.
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No. Q altered the past first, and now they’re altering the past to prevent Q’s altering of the past.
I think that would be a cool twist and a great commentary about where things are heading!
That's what they want you to think, but what if there's a twist?
Interview on bringing back Kirk Thatcher
https://trekmovie.com/2022/03/24/ex...rd-brought-back-spoiler-from-the-voyage-home/
Terry admits it doesn’t make sense that he reaches for his neck, but it’s a fun scene and call back so who cares.
https://trekmovie.com/2022/03/24/ex...rd-brought-back-spoiler-from-the-voyage-home/
Terry admits it doesn’t make sense that he reaches for his neck, but it’s a fun scene and call back so who cares.
The trailer for next week’s episode shows him interfering. Heck at the end of his episode he tried to interfere. This is a test for Picard, why would he help him?
The trouble with the time travel isn't the travel. It's fan obsession with trying to connect trivia irrelevant to the story at hand.
The only thing that I had questions about was why not use the lights and siren on the cruiser to get through traffic instead of playing GTA.
The only thing that I had questions about was why not use the lights and siren on the cruiser to get through traffic instead of playing GTA.
I think there is more to it. The trailer is implying that he might be interfering but he might be trying to help in his own way.
If Guinan can age up or down at will, why didn't she age up in Rascals?
She hasn’t aged down. She’s just supposed to be the age Guinan was in TNG.
Well she is leaving Earth in 2024.
Q moved Picard and co from the real federation. Perhaps that removed them from the past, but did not affect other meetings - Punk on bus, Kira/OBrien and the hippys, the voyager crew and Stalling etc
Reasonable for Guinan not to recognise Picard initially, she didn’t spend much time with him in 19th century and that was 130 years ago, and she wasn’t expecting to see him for hundreds more years, however once he mentioned time travel that would have opened the right context.
I don’t understand why him telling her name at the end of the episode changed her mind though.
as for ten forward, we know there were many lounges on the D in season 1. Picard decided it would be better to have a single large lounge where the crew could mingle, and asked Guinan to run it. She came aboard and said “ok, let’s put it here on deck 10”, and the rest is history.
The bigger question to me is why Picard hadn’t seen his oldest and dearest friend since she went back to LA before 2401.
Reasonable for Guinan not to recognise Picard initially, she didn’t spend much time with him in 19th century and that was 130 years ago, and she wasn’t expecting to see him for hundreds more years, however once he mentioned time travel that would have opened the right context.
I don’t understand why him telling her name at the end of the episode changed her mind though.
as for ten forward, we know there were many lounges on the D in season 1. Picard decided it would be better to have a single large lounge where the crew could mingle, and asked Guinan to run it. She came aboard and said “ok, let’s put it here on deck 10”, and the rest is history.
The bigger question to me is why Picard hadn’t seen his oldest and dearest friend since she went back to LA before 2401.
The trailer for next week explains that one.
TrekBBS launched during DS9, and plenty of us discussed trek before then on things like umtss. I remember the hype about first contact and the story leaks coming out - end of the federation stuff etc.
We don’t know she can age down (although seems a reasonable inference), but she didn’t want to age though, she was happy to be a kid again for a little while. Presumably she can’t age down to a baby, or even a child, perhaps the removal of the RVN sequences prevented it.
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