Yeah, no.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x04 - "Watcher"
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Yeah, no.
It's just an easter egg, don't over think it.
It depends how far they want to go with this and if you consider writer tweets canon. Unless it's contradicted onscreen, we fans can pretend Guinan did recognize Picard upon hearing his name.
That’s from 2 years ago. If you want to start a new topic about it I’d be happy to chime in.
So? It’s a legitimate point showing a contradiction. You’re just trying to ignore it because it doesn’t fit your own thinking.
Not necessarily. Just because the timeline change prevented Picard and Guinan meeting, it doesn't automatically mean that the events of STTVH don't still happen. The two events aren't linked.
So yes, the punk remembers Kirk and Spock.
She went from tiny Victorian Era hats in 1893 to no hats in 2024 and then YUGE hats by 2293.
I fail to see how if the Fed never existing is the entire basis for the timeline change.
more like one year and half. But suddenly very relevant.
But against board rules.
The actress who plays Young Guinan was also told the same thing during production when she asked about Guinan not remembering Picard.
So it was something they thought about during production. They didn't just make it up after the fact.
That's nonsense. The entire scene is built around the in joke of him going to his neck when he's asked to turn the music down.
So either the scene is explicitly indicating he remembers Kirk and Spock, thus invalidating the changed timeline explanation for Guinan, or the writers wasted a bunch of valuable screen time on fanwank nostalgia baiting they didn't even think through all the way.
And, you know what? The conclusion is the same either way. The writing of this episode was terrible, easily one of the worst in the series to date. This may be my least favorite episode of the show thus far, and that includes the awful conclusion to last season. It's just such a shame to see them wasting a decent set up like this, pissing their time away on member berries and nostalgia schlock.
In the mirror universe you can guess Guinan from 2024 wears a MAGA hat.
Just following the rules. Make a new post about it and I’ll discuss it.
Guinan's hats are a Doomsday Clock. No hat = midnight. The bigger the hat, the farther we are from armageddon.
Damn. Don't hold back. It's an interesting take.
I'm not saying they didn't think about it. I'm saying how far it's expressed on screen is the canon fans really need to worry about to keep things simple.
If writer tweets are canon, Future Guy is Archer.
The Variety interview specifically says they did not have an answer for her during production, and in fact she still didn't have an answer even at the time the interview was conducted.
Not having an answer for her at the time really bugs me. Having answers to those questions is always an aid to performance. You're not setting the actress up for success with this approach.
Exactly, it's a joke. Don't take it seriously. It's an easter egg, a nod to people who have seen ST4.
Bumping an old thread, regardless of relevance, is against the rules (I believe over a year but I could be wrong). You are welcome to start a new thread and link back to the old one for context.
That's usually what I see said but a mod might clarify better.
Yup.
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