Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x04 - "Absolute Candor"

[Cap'n Calhoun]

There was war, the Federation just hadn't realized it yet.

Well, they were losing the peace.

Which means a war could be their only... hope.

 

[Spot261]

There was war, the Federation just hadn't realized it yet.

Do you really want a pedantic debate on when the war started?

Seriously?

 

[Danja]

A while back, I wrote a fic called "Double Life" that was set after Voyager. I predicted that Seven would have a ship of her own.

My prediction was realized (even if it did get trashed at the end of "Absolute Candor" ).

 

[DarthTimon]

The appearance of Seven in a ship was unexpected. I'd assumed when I saw Jeri Ryan's name she'd be on the planet for some reason.

 

[Spot261]

The appearance of Seven in a ship was unexpected. I'd assumed when I saw Jeri Ryan's name she'd be on the planet for some reason.

Possibly because we saw a trailer of her in what appeared to be a study of some kind?

(very possibly the holodeck recreation of Picard's house)

 

[Discofan]

Do you really want a pedantic debate on when the war started?

Seriously?

I hate pedantic debates.

 

[Discofan]

Possibly because we saw a trailer of her in what appeared to be a study of some kind?

(very possibly the holodeck recreation of Picard's house)

Holodecks, never leave home without them, actually never leave home with them... Just never leave home, ok?

 

[Alan Roi]

Anyone remember this?

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Yep. It was fun. And they broadcast it in reverse order for some reason.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Holodecks, never leave home without them, actually never leave home with them... Just never leave home, ok?

Holodecks, never leave them. I probably wouldn't emerge for a few years anyway.

 

[DaveyNY]

Ferris rangers - named after ferris bueler.

... and the planetary force-field is telling everybody to go home it's over
.

 

[Discofan]

Holodecks, never leave them. I probably wouldn't emerge for a few years anyway.

Actually, What I'd like is the simulation that allows you to live a lifetime in 25 minutes, as in "The Inner Light". Imagine, in a single lifetime you could live for millennia. I estimate more than a million years !!!

 

[Mojochi]

That’s what I don’t understand. The Galaxy is more than the just Federation. Ask one one of the other powers to help. Sure it’s a long shot but he’s Picard. He has the power to persuade people with speech.

I think the implication here is that there would be no other power as beneficent as the UFP had historically been about a situation like this, regarding a regime that for centuries had been universally distrusted, feared, & largely reviled. Point being, for Romulans in need, the UFP was the last stop for humanitarian aid, & even they backed out of their longstanding principles & turned away

IMHO this is a damn "Dark Ages" for this franchise's universe. When the Federation closes its doors to people in need, begins sanctions and bans on specific types of life forms, & spits vulgarities at its model representatives, then I must agree with Picard, that this is not Starfleet anymore

 

[Discofan]

That’s what I don’t understand. The Galaxy is more than the just Federation. Ask one one of the other powers to help. Sure it’s a long shot but he’s Picard. He has the power to persuade people with speech.

Picard should have asked Q, he could do it with a snap of his fingers.

 

[Alan Roi]

I'd suggest the 'wildly out of character' part is precisely why those people have been so disappointed with him. Disappointment is generally wrapped up in high expectations.

Your second point is definitely something to think about though. Those parts do seem thinly written; either that or Picard is a selfish asshole and we know that's not true.

Picard may not be a selfish asshole, but we've seen it presented numerous enough times that he has a marked tendency to be a self-righteous asshole.

 

[JoeZhang]

I think the implication here is that there would be no other power as beneficent as the UFP had historically been about a situation like this, regarding a regime that for centuries had been universally distrusted, feared, & largely reviled. Point being, for Romulans in need, the UFP was the last stop for humanitarian aid, & even they backed out of their longstanding principles & turned away

IMHO this is a damn "Dark Ages" for this franchise's universe. When the Federation closes its doors to people in need, begins sanctions and bans on specific types of life forms, & spits vulgarities at its model representatives, then I must agree with Picard, that this is not Starfleet anymore

I think they have also made the Universe more realistically big - if you live outside the borders of a major power... good luck.

 

[Alan Roi]

Picard should have asked Q, he could do it with a snap of his fingers.

Ask Q for help? Hasn't Jean Luc been humiliated enough?

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Picard may not be a selfish asshole, but we've seen it presented numerous enough times that he has a marked tendency to be a self-righteous asshole.

That was the basis for most of Q's interventions.

 

[JoeZhang]

If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid.

 

[Corran Horn]

If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid.

The Borg genocided planets and the Federation used germ warfare but hey, somebody got their head chopped off.

 

[Mojochi]

That Q is absent is maybe the darkest, most foreboding aspect to this whole thing. It's like Picard is not even worth the trouble anymore. I'm pretty sure that the most prominent sign that this is the most hopeless of times is that Q can't even be bothered