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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x02 - "Maps and Legends"

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Although I generally like Star Wars more than Star Trek, I find Picard to be the far superior show to the Mandalorian because the lead character is a realistic person and not a walking masculinity cliche.

I prefer Picard because Star Trek is my first true Sci-Fi love if we're not counting Ghostbusters as Sci-Fi.

For me if I had to save one, pitch the other...Star Wars would disappear in the snap of a finger.
 
You're a Starfleet admiral and the man you most despise barges in and tells some insane story about an evil Cabal of invisible romulans chasing an invisible android who maybe Data's daughter and your only proof is footage of that man being caught in the middle of an explosion.

Me I wouldn't swear at Picard, I drag him to the nearest infirmiry to get his head checked.
So probably one of the most decorated and highest-regarded Starfleet officers (his ship is hanging as a hologram in the lobby of Starfleet HQ!), especially one who's probably seen more weird things than any average paper-pushing officer at HQ states something he's seen, I would have at least looked like I was considering what he was saying.

Gave the episode a 7. Good, but the hacking into the AI (done in DSC with Airiam already), rogue officers (TOS, TNG, etc.) and some of the other overused tropes just let me down a bit in this one.

I'm finding it hard to believe that this is happening in Starfleet, again.
 
You're a Starfleet admiral and the man you most despise barges in and tells some insane story about an evil Cabal of invisible romulans chasing an invisible android who maybe Data's daughter and your only proof is footage of that man being caught in the middle of an explosion.

Me I wouldn't swear at Picard, I drag him to the nearest infirmiry to get his head checked.
That's the thing though, he was mysteriously dropped off home, with no indication Earth police questioned him or even a hospital checkup.
 
Although I generally like Star Wars more than Star Trek, I find Picard to be the far superior show to the Mandalorian because the lead character is a realistic person and not a walking masculinity cliche.
Not sure i see that with the mandalorian. He's a single dad, gets beaten in fights all the time, is generally thoughtful and softly spoken and isn't afraid to ask for help. Not sure how any of those are 'masculine cliches'
 
Not sure i see that with the mandalorian. He's a single dad, gets beaten in fights all the time, is generally thoughtful and softly spoken and isn't afraid to ask for help. Not sure how any of those are 'masculine cliches'
I meant how he's the cold silent type exemplified by Clint Eastwood.

To take your example, Wolverine has been beaten in fights many times, and has been a father figure to Rogue, Jubilee, etc. He's still a cliche.

The Mando is afraid to ask for help. And he's not thoughtful or soft spoken at all, have we watched the same episodes? He wrote off the New Republic, the obvious choice for help, as a joke. He won't even let a reprogrammed IG take off his helmet to heal him because of... reasons.
 
I do expect at least one spinoff from Picard, or they may even continue the show as Picard but without him in it, they could probably get away with that if Soji ends up being his biological daughter in some way, after all whoever made her had to get the biological components from somewhere.

Could be Maddox but it could also be Picard himself, if so the Picard title would still be valid even without Jean-Luc in it, Soji Picard perhaps.

I thought Soji and Dahj were cloned from Data? :confused:
 
And since Data assimilated Lal's memories after her cascade failure and death both Dahj and Soji could technically and literally be both daughters of Data and Lal's sisters.
 
I thought Soji and Dahj were cloned from Data? :confused:
That is what we are supposed to believe for now but it may not be the case by the end.

Plus creating a flesh and blood android will require DNA, Data has none so it would make sense that someones had to be used, Maddox could have used himself or Picard or someone else.

We have a rough idea how but we dont have any details as to what is needed or how long it would take, we know the Borg can mature a baby in 3 years but we dont know if that is how Maddox did it.

Or even if Maddox is the one that did it at all, it could have been someone else.
 
After watching the episode Spyfall of Dr. Who, this came to mind...

Commodore Oh: Oh, come on, Admiral, catch up. You can do it.

Picard: Ohh!

Oh: That's my name, and that is why I chose it. So satisfying. Admiral, I did say look for the cyborg leader. Or should I say cy-BORG leader? Hi.

Picard: You can't be.

Oh: Oh, I can be. I very much am.
 
I meant how he's the cold silent type exemplified by Clint Eastwood.

To take your example, Wolverine has been beaten in fights many times, and has been a father figure to Rogue, Jubilee, etc. He's still a cliche.

The Mando is afraid to ask for help. And he's not thoughtful or soft spoken at all, have we watched the same episodes? He wrote off the New Republic, the obvious choice for help, as a joke. He won't even let a reprogrammed IG take off his helmet to heal him because of... reasons.

It's very obvious you either haven't seen it, are relying on someone else's shaded review of it, or are missing, painfully so, many of the points in it.

The whole "no take off the helmet thing" is because of the way he was interpreting his oath to the Mandolorian Creed. It's literally his religion. To dismiss that as "because of...reasons" is no different than dismissing Muslims and Jews for not eating pork, or Hindus for not eating beef because of..."reasons".

The reason he dismissed the New Republic is because at that point in SW history they *were* a joke, they were only in control of a few sectors and hardly a viable group to protect anyone or anything seeing as they can barely handle what is left of the Empire.
 
After watching the episode Spyfall of Dr. Who, this came to mind...

Commodore Oh: Oh, come on, Admiral, catch up. You can do it.

Picard: Ohh!

Oh: That's my name, and that is why I chose it. So satisfying. Admiral, I did say look for the cyborg leader. Or should I say cy-BORG leader? Hi.

Picard: You can't be.

Oh: Oh, I can be. I very much am.
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(JK. That was awesome.)
 
I suppose Admiral Janeway's efforts to get Voyager home earlier paid off with the Borg being effectively defanged and immobilized over the past 21 years. The Collective could have been seriously damaged.
It always seemed to me that every major Borg defeat could be construed as their total destruction if they were never seen again in canon. If Voyager never showed the Borg, we could have assumed Picard & Data killing the Queen in FC destroyed the collective permanently. If the Borg never show up as major antagonists after VOY: Endgame, we could infer that Adm. Janeway's virus that dismantled the Queen destroyed the collective permanently. If the Borg show up in a future Trek and then get handed another major defeat and never show up again, we can infer the collective was destroyed permanently. This cycle can be used ad infinitum if the writers keep hitting a creative wall and need a familiar villain as a crutch.
 
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