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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x02 - "Maps and Legends"

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From the Mars prologue. I'm certain those are the uniforms from the prequel comic, just with some sort of security vest on top.

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Well, Episode 2 was a bit of a let-down, personally, although there were a number of satisfying moments. I loved the scene with Admiral Nance [Edit: Clancy] and the way it turned around on Picard; he went in there cocksure and full of himself -- modestly offering a temporary reduction in rank. I felt his shock as she started laying in on him, sweeping all his presumption aside! But the interesting thing was she didn't just blow him off, she actually looked into his accusations, unfortunately turning to the wrong person in her command.

The Commodore Oh and Lieutenant Rizzo scene was the most disappointing. Talk about mustache-twirling! This wouldn't have been any worse if they ended with the two sharing a few "Mwuh-ha-ha-has" over Picard's inevitable fate.

Is Commodore Oh a Romulan, or is it possible the Vulcans, too, share the Romulan distaste for synthetic intelligences? If that hatred goes back thousands of years, then it almost certainly coincides with the rise of Surak's principles of logic. Could the Zhat Vash be an ancient hatred Vulcans and Romulans share? According to canon, the Vulcans were into some pretty wild stuff in those days ... might attempts to build artificial intelligences or synthetic beings be part of the very war that split Vulcans and Romulans and ultimately gave rise to the cult of Surak?

I gave the episode a 6 out of 10. Sloppy dialog, some funky editing, and that ridiculous scene with Oh and Rizzo took the wind from my sails after last week.
 
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Apparently, the Romulan black ops team in episode 1 masked/cloaked their whole op on the stairs from Earth surveillance, except for missing that reflection of disruptor fire that Oh pointed out to Rizzo. So when Laris and Picard are reviewing footage that clearly shows Picard getting blasted by something, was that obtained with Laris's illegal Romulan molecular scan gizmo? If so, that would explain why Picard couldn't simply present it to Adm. Clancy as evidence that something weird is afoot.

Kor
 
And why couldn't Picard have presented this to Adm. Clancy as evidence that something weird was afoot?
Kor

You're a Starfleet admiral and the man you most despise barges in and tells some insane story about an evil Cabal of invisible romulans chasing an invisible android who maybe Data's daughter and your only proof is footage of that man being caught in the middle of an explosion.

Me I wouldn't swear at Picard, I drag him to the nearest infirmiry to get his head checked.
 
was that obtained with Laris's illegal Romulan molecular scan gizmo?

No I think that was just the standard security footage that Rizzo sanitized........except for the reflection that Commodore Oh pointed out.

I just rewatched and completely missed Oh telling Rizzo that she had the C in C's office bugged the first time.........
 
You're a Starfleet admiral and the man you most despise barges in and tells some insane story about an evil Cabal of invisible romulans chasing an invisible android who maybe Data's daughter and your only proof is footage of that man being caught in the middle of an explosion.

Me I wouldn't swear at Picard, I drag him to the nearest infirmiry to get his head checked.

Right, nothing suspicious about an apparently spontaneous explosion.

Kor
 
The Commodore/Rizzo scenes were pretty bad, which is a real shame because everything else worked really well for me. A slight let down on the premier, but with tons of potential for the rest of the season.
 
I think you'll find the couch is most comfortable when you've got a couple of decent pillows and a light blanket.
;)

Can confirm. My wife is on medication which absolutely requires sufficient sleep to work and if I'm having a bad night..I exile myself to the couch voluntarily
 
Too slow for a show being released weekly. A lot of streaming shows now indulge in long arcs of pacing, but it’s because they drop the entire season at once. Basically what we got here was more belly aching about going on a mission rather than getting properly on the road and have another week to wait to see anything substantial.
 
Too slow for a show being released weekly. A lot of streaming shows now indulge in long arcs of pacing, but it’s because they drop the entire season at once. Basically what we got here was more belly aching about going on a mission rather than getting properly on the road and have another week to wait to see anything substantial.
It was slower than the first episode, but I think that you (and actually not just you, but people in general) are a bit conditioned to something different, which you sort of allude to here. In the past, there would be shows that had slow pacing and we wouldn't have thought any different because shows were only released weekly.
 
Too slow for a show being released weekly. A lot of streaming shows now indulge in long arcs of pacing, but it’s because they drop the entire season at once. Basically what we got here was more belly aching about going on a mission rather than getting properly on the road and have another week to wait to see anything substantial.

The Mandolorian on D+ had quite a few slow episodes as well and it has done fine, and it also was released weekly.

Picard will be fine...
 
Honestly this irumodic syndrome strikes me as forced drama that detracts from the show's message. The idea is supposed to be people are ignoring Picard because they've lost their way and values, not because they don't believe him because of his medical issues.

couldn't it just be that sir patrick insisted on be out of it at the end and they are preparing for that? it also gives them something to use if sir patrick actually wasn't available any longer to do new episodes. they could bring in riker and troy to sort out for everybody what actually happened.
 
couldn't it just be that sir patrick insisted on be out of it at the end and they are preparing for that? it also gives them something to use if sir patrick actually wasn't available any longer to do new episodes. they could bring in riker and troy to sort out for everybody what actually happened.
It could be.
 
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