A fun finale episode. Nothing earth-shattering, but some goofy fun. Much enjoyed and I shall miss the show.
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Guessing his NDA is 10 years
Star Trek: Lower Decks’ Mike McMahan Addresses Wild Discovery Reference In Series Finale, And Now It Has Me Wondering
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What the crew of the Lakota may or may not have thought is completely irrelevant to the point I was making. The point I was making is when the Defiant first opened fire, they fired their pulse phasers, they weren't even pointed at the Lakota. They they literally shooting at nothing and rotated around while shooting in order to begin hitting the Lakota. And this isn't even unique to the Lakota fight, we see this happen a lot of the times the Defiant is in battle, even when they're fighting the Dominion and have no need to hold back.
Though to address your point about the Lakota, given the ship at the time was commanded by an officer who had a role in plotting the coup with Admiral Leyton and given she knew that if the Defiant got past them the coup would be defeated, we can assume she'd do her damnedest to make sure the crew weren't holding back against what they were to believe was a ship full of shapeshifters.
That doesn't negate the fact this series is first and foremost a comedy and will prioritize being funny over being realistic.
It also could be the Defiant's crew didn't have it's heart in it for potentially shooting down a fellow StarFleet ship.
Have you seen fixed Gun Emplacements on WW2 Fighters try to aim and shoot?
It's hard to successfully aim with that sucker.
I've played plenty of Air Combat games, and getting fixed guns to line up in a turning battle isn't easy, especially predicting the target w/o computer aided calculations of where the target might end up once your projectiles reach the estimated distance that the target will be at.
Any form jamming would screw up the calculations even more if they depended on RADAR or the equivalent to calculate distance of the target.
Blind instinctive shooting based on visual analysis takes ALOT of experience time behind the fighter/vehicle/vessel.
Especially if you're in a turning contest in Atmosphere.
Now imagine that in 3D space + your ability to converge your shots would be still limited for Klingon Bird of Preys & the USS Defiant.
It's not like Phaser Arrays that are automatically computer targeted and shouldn't miss unless there is ECM (Electronic Counter Measures) designed to screw up the targeting computer.
But that's assuming she's fully convinced of her commands.
Given what happens at the end, I don't think she's fully convinced of Leytons orders.
It's a comedy series. It's a joke
Doesn't explain the other times they did the same thing against other enemies, including one they were at war with.
That doesn't excuse firing when there's literally no target in the weapons path.
She was fully committed. The only reason Benteen gave up and surrendered was because the Defiant possessed defenses which weren't in the specs resulting in the Defiant managing to last in the fight a lot longer than expected. As it was, Worf still had to offer a surrender to her, and he didn't do that until the Lakota was literally one hit away from being destroyed.
Joke's over, now that the StarBase is parked at a very important location, time to "Clean Up" the place.
There's always a chunk of humanity who wouldn't fight or aren't willing to fight.
IRL examples
Percentage of Europeans Who Are Willing To Fight A War For Their Country - Brilliant Maps
Map created by reddit user Spartharios
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= Statistics of the MakeUp of most Parts of Humanity = (Rough Stats)
- _5% of Humanity can easily kill another person w/o issue
- 90% of Humanity will go through the motion, but generally just wants to survive
- _5% of Humanity can't and won't kill another
Trust me, if you've done manual targeting, you sometimes fire at nearby air to intimidate the flesh and blood pilot to make mistakes or to steer them in another path that you want them to fly.
I've done that myself on plenty of occaision when doing MultiPlayer dog fights when doing guns only battles.
That's not new if you aren't doing 100% computerized Auto-Targeting.
The only time that Auto-Targeting should screw up is if the data you feed it is inaccurate or you found some ways to jam their Fire Control Computer or there are edge cases where the targeting alogrithm messes up.
Maybe, but that's going to vary by Commanding Officer and individual Officers.
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Well, well.Star Trek: Lower Decks’ Mike McMahan Addresses Wild Discovery Reference In Series Finale, And Now It Has Me Wondering
What do we make of this?
I can't say that this is the way I'd imagine it happening, but I've always liked the idea of the different iterations of Klingon being on screen together. Let the fans sort out the mess.
At least this way, there's a little extra room for people to interpret things their own way, according to Mike.
Now I'll just wait to see if someone has the balls to put the different types of Gorn on screen together, the TOS and SNW constitution classes and whatever else supposedly exists in different continuities.
Star Trek: Lower Decks’ Mike McMahan Addresses Wild Discovery Reference In Series Finale, And Now It Has Me Wondering
What do we make of this?
The "ten years" comment is the only eye-opening thing here. He's saying he cannot answer due to an NDA. Which must mean he's aware of some official dictat from the studio.
I don't think that's what he meant.
Ensign Olly was clearly doing a Dragonball Kamehameha charging pose when charging her lightning.
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No. Because the next time we see it someone could say “ It was here a minute ago.” And the multiverse would be fine.
The only negative I have about the episode was Rutherford's very sudden frustration with the Cerritos and ripping his cyborg stuff off his face which was previously implied to be keeping him alive after he got blown up years before, in order to force rush some kind of character resolution.
I think he was making a joke...
Great finale. It sucks that the show is ending, especially since a bunch of terrible crap is going to still keep getting made, but I'm happy it existed. Lower Decks by itself justified Star Trek coming back (SNW helps, but Lower Decks is worth it all by itself), and I doubt any new Trek show will ever reach its heights.
That's a pretty clear statement to his intent all things considered.
What I did appreciate was that the episode was pretty much entirely focused on Lower Decks, rather than callbacks and cameos. I feared the worst when they casually mentioned the Enterprise, but that was a red herring.
It was great closure for all the characters, but also set up possible futures for them.
It was great closure for all the characters, but also set up possible futures for them.
It was shown earlier in the season too. They played a clip in the 'previously on'
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